How to switch to silver

You know why silver is fluttering around the same sorry mark of 31-32? Because it is programmed to flutter tightly around this or that mark.

Big boys can’t let it lift off for reasons described by Silver Shield with crystal clarity. But the funny thing is that they can’t let it fall to, say, $10/oz either – because the whole world will start shuttling their hastily rented 18-wheelers between physical dealers and undisclosed private vaults until there is no physical. That is, for a whole hour or two.

Cui bono? Pools that turn meaningful profits on fluctuations of 0.0000001 cent/oz. Individuals are not supposed to survive in the race, let alone thrive.

But here’s a catch: individuals are not supposed to survive, if they measure silver in the paradigm’s papernotes. If actual silver (or anything at all other than FRN) is used in real-life economy today, the whole house will crumble before you can say “there used to be a WalMart where the lake is“.

If you know any local non-franchise butcher, baker, candlestick maker, ask him today if he is willing to sell you exchange barter his fare for a couple of pre-1964 nickels.

It has to start with something. Why not with a question?

18 comments to How to switch to silver

  • Crunchyconmama

    Great idea, Mustafa!

  • Freedom Lover

    hmm, me confused. I could see pre-1965 dimes and quarters. Nothing changed with nickels around that time. Unless you are suggesting trying to con someone into thinking that nickels contained silver.

    http://www.coinflation.com/coins/1946-2007-Jefferson-Nickel-Value.html

  • Gareth

    Hi Freedom Lover. Mustafa did state “pre-1946” ie before 1946 nickels. Your 1942-1945 ‘Nickel’ contained 35% silver – bit of an ‘oddball’ coin, since many US coins have been made of 90% silver.

    The 1942-2011 are made of cupro-nickel, or ‘white copper’, and are 75% copper, and 25% nickel.

    Not sure how much silver there is in the States to be honest, as I’m not from there and so it’s difficult to guage.

    The 1942-2011 ‘Nickels’ could be used as currency system though. See the link:

    http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=11156

  • Gareth

    Sorry – edit: “The 1942-2011 are made of cupro-nickel” should read “The 1946-2011 are made of cupro-nickel” Apologies.

    Peace

  • Gareth

    OMG – ignore my above two posts – dates completely wrong.

    Correct post is:

    Hi Freedom Lover. Mustafa did state “pre-1964″ ie before 1946 nickels. Your 1942-1945 ‘Nickel’ contained 35% silver – bit of an ‘oddball’ coin, since many US coins have been made of 90% silver.

    The 1964-2011 are made of cupro-nickel, or ‘white copper’, and are 75% copper, and 25% nickel.

    Not sure how much silver there is in the States to be honest, as I’m not from there and so it’s difficult to guage.

    The 1964-2011 ‘Nickels’ could be used as currency system though. See the link:

  • lastmanstanding

    Gareth…tough night in the UK? lol!

    Mustafa…no chance of $10 Ag because the dollar will be long gone before that happens…personally, I don’t value Ag by the dollar. I look at it in terms of helping my kids and grandkids at having any chance of the same life I have lived. (as a slave to the system…painful as that is to say.)

    I paid for a b-day party in Ag…everyone brought a dish, we paid for the vino from a local winery. The owner is a good friend a will care for the silver well.

    I told him if he needed to sell it that I would buy it back…His answer,” no chance.”

  • Mustafa Cohen

    @ Freedom Lover: My bad. “pre-1964 nickels” should be “pre-1964 quarters or dimes”.

    Though it does not matter – even federal reserve notes could be used, the point is to ignore official face value: if it says 1 dollar, call it “100 matchboxes” or “half a loaf of bread”. It should stop being taken for granted; being seen for what we are expected to see it for.

  • Freedom Lover

    All is well. I like this site and I’m just trying to make sure I am not missing anything. Cheers.

  • A Gardener

    I am in the UK so dimes nickels and quarters are really hard to find.Most people here do not know what they are.
    For small coins over here I have been stacking 1/10th ounce, 1/4 ounce and 1/2 ounce APMEX coins. These are good as they are stamped with the weight and say .999 silver on them. ( You can also get small German coins marked by weight) This helps when telling and recommending friends to get physical silver as it is clear what they are ( No Intelligence needed). Small coins are quite hard to get here ( Most places sell from 1 ounce coins and bars on up in weight) If you are in the Uk and find it hard to get small coins check out Sarnia Silver and CI Silver Bullion ,

  • Silver Eagle

    It takes some work but you can still find Kennedy Half dollars 1964(90%) and 1965-69 (40%) in circulation. In the last six months I have acquired over 100 ounces.

  • methylamine

    @Silver Eagle:

    Wow! How do you get them? Just go to the bank and exchange a fistfull of paper for half-dollars, then look for the silver ones?

  • Gareth

    @A Gardener: Collect the florins too. The cupro-nickel version was still around until 1990 – same size as the old10p. People will remember the style of coin and people will also learn that 1920-1946 coins are 50% silver. i.e. people they will recognise them. It’s usually possible to get them fairly cheaply from ebay.

    All the best, and keep gardening….

  • Silver Eagle

    It takes alot of work, and some luck. I have two methods. 1) I order $1000 (two boxes or halfs every week. You’ll find on average about (4) 40% Halfs per box. The second method is to visit as many baks as possible and ask for their half dollars either loose or rolled. If they say they have a lot of rolls ask if they are rolled by a customer or their supplier. Chances are the rolls by customer are already sorted (some people will mark their rolls with an X if they have been sorted) however, customer rolls don’t indicate that they have been searched. Just chances are they have been. I say that becaus eyou could end up looking through crap. Some tellers will tell you they have already been searched through. I found 110 40%, and 40 90% Kennedys on one visit where someone had turned in halfs their father had left them. That is unusual. But on average I find about 20 silver half dollars or 3-4 ounces per week. Interesting what you will find, Franklins and Standing Libertys are not uncommon but rare.

    Note: their are others doing this and tellers also know what to look for, so you have to work your banks, some tellers will tell you they get all the silver ones. If that is the case mark them off your list, you’ll just be wasting your time. Also, just because a bank does not have any or any on a consistent basis does not mean they won’t have some the next time. Also, don’t ask to see their half dollars and choose the ones you want, most tellers get annoyed by that, They hate having to count them and want to get rid of them, just take all their halfs even if they aren’t silver.

    Now that you have a BUNCH of worthless half dollars (meaning post 1969) you will need to get rid of them. Most Credit Unions have free counting counting machines that allow you redeposit the coins without a surcharge, some banks are also doing this. My Credit Union’s coin machine also kicks out silver dimes, quarters and halfs so if you miss one they usually get spit out. The key to getting rid of the worthless ones is to open an account at a bank that has a machine. DON NOT TAKE YOUR SPEND COINS TO ONE THAT CHARGES YOU A % TO EXCHANGE. Second note, some banks will not allow you to exchange worthless FRN for coins if you don’t have an account. I found that if you have children you can open a custodial account for a minimal deposit of $25, ta-da you have an account. Also, most banks will not trade back if you roll them. Like in golf replace your divots, if you reroll the coins and deposit them mark them with an X.

    Depending on where you live these are the banks that will trade halfs for FRN without an account
    Wells Fargo
    Bank Of America
    Suntrust

    The bigger the bank the more likely they will have half dollars, smaller banks will order them for you but usually don’t have halfs. also, I have found rural banks or small city banks know what to look for and the tellers get all the good ones, but I did find about 20 1964 halfs at a small bank of america in a small town one time.

    Good Luck looking!

  • Archangel

    Just a thought here, but another option, with all the time spent sorting, figure out how to create more FRN income and go buy some silver with it. I am in my early 30’s lots of energy and found that filling my time creating income streams has been way more profitable and bolstered my silver stores far better than sorting could ever produce. If it takes me a week to pick up 4 ounces this way, I can make $120 in hours or even minutes. Doing that a few times a week = more silver. We definately need people to sort too, since the less the bank has in the vault, the better our position will be. Just be mindful of time. Also, here is an interesting article (from a link on coinflation.com) about the silver melts. Gives an idea of what we are dealing with. KEEP STACKING
    http://www.pcgs.com/Articles/Detail/496

  • Archangel

    Sorry, thread got off track, Mustafa, do you think now is the time to start cycling silver out of your vault as a means of exchange? I’d much rather get rid of FRN’s for essential items at this point in the shift. The FRN is only as vaulable as the item you purchase with it, so using it for preps is the best hedge ever. Your thoughts?

  • Silver Eagle

    Archangel,
    That is one choice, and I do that as well. But what time is spent stopping by a few banks every week, two hours, maybe three? If I find on average 4 ounces that equals $70 hour. remember some weeks I have found considerably more. Or another way to look at it is the 20 Halfs I find cost me $10 in FRNs, that is equivelent to buying a troy ounce of silver for $2.50.

    Here is my calculations over the last six months:

    110 ounces have cost me roughly $300 since there is a mix of 40% and 90% silver halfs. (It runs around 3 to 1 ratio) The value of the 110 ounces is worth around $3400. If I worked extra hours to buy the 110 ounces at $31 per ounce I have to pay taxes on the extra income earned. The same $3400 would actually only allow me to purchase around 88 ounces since I would have paid FICA and FED/STATE taxes,etc. If I work a few hours a week collecting half dollars from banks I actually make more per hour and the profit I make between the $300 and if I have to sell them for $3400 is tax free ( since there is no cost basis documentation, nor selling documentation of trading one currency for another)

    I should say don’t rely on stacking silver purely on finding pre-1971 Half dollars, its only one method to find cheap silver.

  • Silver Eagle

    Also, I have a family and two active daughters, I already spend alot of time away from them, as well as a beuatiful wife so finding other revenue streams is not available to me or everyone. Not to mention a small farm to deal with when I am home. “Silver Mining” is an activity when I am traveling anyway.

  • Mustafa Cohen

    @ Archangel 10:55:

    I have no idea – it depends on your specific situation. Only you can tell. Ask yourself and do what you feel comfortable with.

    Alternatively, try each new thing once on a small scale (model). If it works; if it leaves you feeling good, try doing it life-size.

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