Lawrence Lessig: Republic, Lost – Americans: It Is Ours To Take Back!

“There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root” – Henry David Thoreau

Of the 8,760 hours that will compose 2012 the video below could be the most helpful and informative 3/4 of one of them.

The founding fathers most memorable rallying call was “Taxation Without Representation”. Today that holds true for 99.95% of “US”.  Liberty, Hope and Change are the responsibility of “We The People”. HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

Summary:

The reason for the failure of the American economy and the inability of the government to address it is because of the corruption and distortions inherent in a system where campaign contributions control the politicians and the policy, and less than one percent of the people control the vast majority of those campaign contributions and therefore the distribution of power. – Jesse’s Café Américain

Conclusion; The Path of Hope and Change:

I believe that when you get people to focus on the issues that drive them nuts… and invite them to connect the dots between these issues… my belief here is there is a root cause that people would recognize as the thing we can all agree about… the root cause is the corruption of this democracy. – Lawrence Lessig

To address the multiple branches of our social and economic problems first we must strike at their root.

http://blip.tv/lessig/republic-lost-my-favorite-version-5697728

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Please refer to: Merry Christmas! “A Republic: If You Can Keep It” – Benjamin Franklin

A government that honors and teaches the true nature of Our Republic reflects the dignity of the people. One that dishonors it our teaches otherwise invokes our duty to amend, dismember or overthrow it. – Inflection Point

See other “Rule Of Law” related posts:
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THE RULE OF LAW MUST APPLY TO ALL AMERICANS!
RAPE OF THE REPUBLIC
END THE FED: THE FIRST STEP IN RESTORING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC
Elite Money Power And The Central Bank: Life Is But A MEME
Warning Again: The Military Can Detain You & Your Right To A Fair Trial Has Been Eliminated
Peter Schiff Occupies Wall Street: Government Is The Problem but Ignorance Abounds
Everything Is Fine: Move On – There’s Nothing Here For The 99%
“There Are Monsters, And They Walk Among Us” – Jesse’s Café Américain
THE FOUNDING FATHERS: MYTH ASIDE, THIS IS A VISION GONE WRONG
THE FOUNDING FATHERS: MYTH ASIDE, THIS IS… Part II
Kleptocracy, To Big To Nail. & Steve Keen: The Greater Depression
The New Robber Barons: All Politicians “In the Hands of the Super Wealthy,” Sachs Says
Ann Barnhardt & Peter Schiff Discuss MF Global
LIBERTY LOST
The President Declares Freedom & Free Markets Dead
MR. PRESIDENT IT’S TIME TO RETURN THE NOBEL..
Guantanamo is Open & Trials Resume: AMERICA’S PRESIDENTIAL SHILL
OccupyWallStreet: The Kids Are Alright!
Word of the Day: TREACHEROUS – See: “LIFTING THE VEIL
Anonymous Shines A Light On The Hypocrisy Of Our Leaders
Chris Hedges: On Civil Disobedience & What Is Capitalism
One Year Ago we asked: When it comes to global warming, where’s the truth?

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16 comments to Lawrence Lessig: Republic, Lost – Americans: It Is Ours To Take Back!

  • rainmaker

    Interesting post. I watched the entire video by Mr Lessig. Somewhere in the first 15 minutes, Mr. Lessig indicated that what the framers meant by “Republic” was a not really a Republic, but a “Constitutional Democracy”. What I find interesting is how intelligencia has a way of framing the Hegelian Dialectic by inflecting truths within the dialog and, as as well, using carefully positioned soundbites and a nifty PowerPoint presentation to try to evoke a warm fuzzy feeling while selling the snake oil. What I find distasteful (to say the least), is that Mr. Lessig actually thinks he is qualified to intreptret what the framers “meant”. (After all he did go to Haavaahd, so that makes him uniquely qualified). A democracy is really just Mob Rule. A Consitutional Democracy is just Mob Rule while citing the Constitution as a justification for bad behavior. Attached is an excerpt from: http://lexrex.com/enlightened/AmericanIdeal/aspects/demrep.html

    “A Republic, on the other hand, has a very different purpose and an entirely different form, or system, of government. Its purpose is to control The Majority strictly, as well as all others among the people, primarily to protect The Individual’s God-given, unalienable rights and therefore for the protection of the rights of The Minority, of all minorities, and the liberties of people in general. The definition of a Republic is: a constitutionally limited government of the representative type, created by a written Constitution–adopted by the people and changeable (from its original meaning) by them only by its amendment–with its powers divided between three separate Branches: Executive, Legislative and Judicial. Here the term “the people” means, of course, the electorate.”

  • My problem with his presentation is that he claims to want to chop at the trunk while giving the branches a glancing blow. Yes, campaign contributions foster an environment of corruption. Yes, the rotating door of the beltway from congress to lobby creates an all powerful corruptocracy. The solution is not more State or a more involved electorate. After all, just as BP gets exceptions via lobbying so does the AARP. From the unemployed demanding plunder so they don’t have to go to work to the farm lobby demanding that the Federal Government turns a blind eye to illegal immigration, the center of the problem is not the human desire to improve their lot by the easiest means possible but the existence of an all powerful entity that can be influenced to plunder from the rest of the population.

    The solution to corruption is dissolution. Eliminate the State and you eliminate the means to plunder and rule over each other. Without a State, there would be no one in power claiming to know what the definition of marriage is or trying to control what individuals choose to put in their bodies. Without a State there is no Too Big to Fail since their is no one to bail them out. Without the State there is no way for some to impose their will on others via proxy violence.

    Eliminate the State, or at least the power of the Federal Government, and there is no one to corrupt. After all, power corrupts.

  • rainmaker

    @ Goldsaver. I would recommend that you copy right “the solution to corruption is dissolution” but I won’t. If you don’t mind, I might print it on a T-Shirt and wear it around town. Very well said, I must say. If anyone is intersted, attached is a video from Steve Molyneux. It might offend some, but I think he is brilliant, and funny too:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igbBItLemsM&feature=player_embedded#!

  • Rainmaker:

    I missed that. I will have to give it a listen again.

    I tied the post to: Merry Christmas! “A Republic: If You Can Keep It” – Benjamin Franklin – http://notionalvalue.blogspot.com/2011/12/merry-christmas-republic-if-you-can.html

    The intent was to serve as a civics 101 lesson; to inform people of the difference between democracy (what the government and academics tell us we are) and Our Republic. And to point out the path to change. This is not the first time my good intentions… However viewed, the point is the government is Ours! It is our responsibility to protect ourselves from the government, insuring it upholds the social contract; protecting our liberties and the rule of law as detailed in our Republic’s constitution.

    I think my concluding quote makes it clear where I stand.

    “A government that honors and teaches the true nature of Our Republic reflects the dignity of the people. One that dishonors it our teaches otherwise invokes our duty to amend, dismember or overthrow it. – Inflection Point”

    Thanks “again” for pointing out a flaw in the argument while missing the point…. I wholly believe in your definition of the Republic. I also believe as people begin to understand the :true” type of government we have they will realize how far off track we are. However evil the money power elite may be, the salient point is: it is with the consent of “the people” (whether it be for lack of understanding, deliberate distraction or misdirection (thank you)), that we find ourselves where we are today. Further, it is only by understanding that change is our responsibility and only by identifying the common source of our wows that “the people” can be rallied to save the Republic.

    The people’s abdication of civic responsibility; standing by as our liberties are being trampled is to deny our own humanity. It is the banality of evil and history has proven its reward is destruction and ultimately death.

    I will listen to the video again and…

    In the meantime, below is an article that can really get you going. It is so chuck full of misunderstanding and misdirection I became infuriated reading it. I don’t know where to begin.

    I would welcome your critique and rebuttal of this crap, for which I would like to post, with your permission. All I require is no personal attacks. Vehemently attacking the absurd argument (a constitution for the internet when our government is incapable of defending our own) and general obfuscation or misunderstanding is fair game. What say you?

    The rise of Facebook Nation – http://www.salon.com/2011/12/31/the_rise_of_facebook_nation/

    PS: I liked the video and could not agree more on the voting part. We are far past voting. But what then? Expatriate? Otherwise no mater where you go, there you are; with the same blood suckers controlling everything.

    The Banality of evil – Warsaw syndrome. One day the cattle car will roll up to your door with your name on the manifest.

    Goldsaver;

    That the State (Federal government) has overstepped it’s bounds is an understatement. Anarchy like democracy never works – one leads to the other and an eventual Oligarchy as pointed out in the first link above.

    The founding fathers gave us a great model but like all institutions it is administered by humans. And, psychopaths are drawn to positions of control.

    Jefferson understood the psychological struggle that oft becomes physical when he said, “The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite.”

    Thank You for your comments and Happy New Year!

  • @pitchman

    How do you believe that voluntary associations (aka Anarchy) always lead to democracy or oligarchy?

    I do agree that Anarchy in a failed State can lead to tyranny and violence but, I am not talking about a Mad Max or Somalia scenario. I am talking about a voluntary community where, since no State exists, cooperation and negotiation become the norm.

    Have you read “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress”? The conditions in Luna, apart from the “Authority” clearly present a voluntary society. Yes, the Lunies ended up forming a government after revolution but, it did not have to be so.

    It is true that any ad hoc community will eventually degrade into violence until a balance is reached. There will always be social psychopaths who desire to control all others either for personal power or because they believe is “for the good of the whole”. Those psychopaths would not survive long. Eventually the community will either become a fiefdom/oligarchy/tyranny or a true voluntary society. It really depends on who wins. I am not advocating an Ad Hoc community but a purposeful community. Individuals who agree to negotiate with each other with no State making decisions for them.

    Is there a danger that a Stateless society could degrade into tyranny? Yes, but why reject the possibility of freedom while accepting the current reality of tyranny? It is almost like a battered spouse refusing to leave the spouse because she fears the next will be just as bad. Evil you know and all that.

    If we accept that the current violence based State is a failure, we must also accept that reforming evil can not work. You can not reform an evil institution. Just like slavery, it can not be reformed but ended.

  • rainmaker

    @ Goldsaver. I would agree. Anarchy and democracy do not work together, but thats because of the democracy part: mob rule. A stateless society could work, where freedom prevails, but individuals would have to buy into liberty for all and not just a few. Jay Snelson passed away recently, but he had some excellent ideas and made famous several lectures called the V-50 lectures that centered on Win-Win theory. This link is a Introduction to Win-Win Theory and the Science of Social Causality:

    http://www.investmenttools.com/pdf/winwin2.pdf

  • What happens when a well intentioned majority wants to take from another for the good of the majority.

    Anarchy devolves into chaos leading a majority to call on the powerful Psychopaths, who probably set the ongoing tragedy in motion, to take control and stop the lawlessness which invariably leads to Dictatorship and /or Oligarchy. When all hell breaks loose, which now appears that it is being engineered by an ever more visible hand, who will stand above the fray waiting to capitalize on the tragedy?

    You can see an example of this taking place now on a daily basis as the Oligarchy and their political minions, with their Straw Man Obfuscations and their Hegelian Dialectic, gain ever more control at behest of an unaware public.

    I believe that the least of government with the rule of law is the best model. Like all institutions the flaw is they are comprised of men. The flaw of the Republican Model is the Republic and it’s constitutional rule of law; the “social contract” is dependent on “the people’s” (mans) patriotic duty to stand vigilant in the protection of said laws and the tenets of the constitution.

    One instance of governmental officials abdicating any part of their sworn oath invariably leads to another and as the people stand ideally by. With the passage of time, we find ourselves where we are today; the constitution is called a relic that does not apply and the rule of law is openly disregarded by our representatives, regulators and ultimately “our Constitutional Scholar in Chief” for the benefit of a few to the detriment of “We The People”

    Your call for anarchy lends itself to violent revolution.

    “Those Who Make Peaceful Revolution Impossible, Make Violent Revolution Inevitable” – John F. Kennedy

    “This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it.” – Abraham Lincoln

    “In a revolution, as in a novel, the most difficult part to invent is the end.” – Alexis de Tocqueville

    “Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship…. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.” O’Brien to Winston
    George Orwell 1984 1949

    I prefer Lincolns first suggestion. And that we deny those lawless traitors, who have failed to defend the Constitution, of their freedom. Although it may be to late we must try, else we go through the bloody cycle that history has painted over and over again; with no clear vision of the outcome.

    ***

    When it comes to Financial Terrorism; lack of action by those constitutionally sworn to protect the people is the equivalent of active participation or passive complicity, both of which are acts of treason.

    To save the republic we love; THE RULE OF LAW MUST APPLY TO ALL AMERICANS! – http://notionalvalue.blogspot.com/2011/05/rule-of-law-must-apply-to-all-americans.html

    All Americans must consider the following:

    “The bane of humanity is we learn nothing from the horrors of past atrocities; and history repeats itself. Our/Your passive acceptance of one transgression or worse; complicit participation, always makes way for another. This and the belief that injustice, visited on our neighbor, will not one day come knocking at our door is the banality of evil and its final reward is death.” – Inflection Point – http://notionalvalue.blogspot.com/

    See: RAPE OF THE REPUBLIC – http://notionalvalue.blogspot.com/2011/09/rape-of-your-republic-what-say-you.html

    ”To the wicked, everything serves as pretext.” -Voltaire

    The money always tells the story. Cui Bono?

    “You have a system that’s not being run to be productive as an economy or healthy as an economy. Its being run to centralize control.” – Cathrine Austin Fitts

    I did a post featuring a fascinating interview on corruption with her. If you’re interested in the depth of the Rabbit Hole and the psychopaths within, See the “Dillon Reed and Company: And the Aristocracy of Stock Profits” link at the bottom of: The Looting of America: Happy Labor Day – http://notionalvalue.blogspot.com/2011/09/looting-of-america-happy-labor-day.html

    THE ROOT OF OUR SOCIAL, ECONOMIC AND MILITARISTIC WOW’S IS AN EVIL, MONETARY SYSTEM. EVERYTHING ELSE IS A SYMPTOM OR AN ACTION THAT SUPPORTS IT. AT THE HEART OF THIS SYSTEM ARE THE CENTRAL BANKS; THE FED, THOSE WHO CONTROL IT AND THEIR DISHONEST, DEBT BASED MONETARY POLICIES. AS SUCH; REGULATIONS, LAWS, THE CAPTURE OF GOVERNMENT AND REGULATORS, AND THE SUSPENSION OF ACCOUNTING RULES IS FOR THEIR BENEFIT. AN ACCOUNT OF THE PEOPLE HAS NO PLACE IN IT. INDEED, IF THE PEOPLE WERE ITS PRIMARY CONCERN, THE WORLD WOULD BE MORE FREE, LESS VIOLENT AND MORE PROSPEROUS.

    THE PRIVATELY HELD FED IS THE TOP REGULATOR OF ITS TBTF OWNERS AND MEMBER BANKS. IT’S CREATION OF MONEY OUT OF THIN AIR; LOANED, AT INTEREST, TO THE SOVEREIGN AND ITS FRACTIONAL RESERVE SYSTEM IS THE MOST INSIDIOUS OF CRIMINAL PONZIS FOR WHICH ALL ITS FAUX REGULATIONS AND FINANCIAL MISALLOCATIONS FOLLOW.

    THE FED’S FIAT PETRO-DOLLAR AND IT’S DEBT SLAVERY ECONOMIC MODEL IS THE MOST POWERFUL CENTRALIZING FORCE KNOWN. IT IS THE GENESIS OF FUNDING FOR THE ELITE MONEY POWER, THEIR CONTRIVED SCHEMES OF CONTROL, AND A SYSTEM OF INCREASING DEBT AND GLOBAL WAR.

    TO FREE OURSELVES, RESTORE FREE MARKET CAPITALISM AND REESTABLISH OUR CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, WE MUST FIRST ELIMINATE THE MOST PERNICIOUS CORRUPTING FORCE OF ALL.

    END THE FED!

    See:

    Money Power And The Central Bank: Life Is But A MEME – http://notionalvalue.blogspot.com/2011/11/once-upon-meme-for-most-part-shallow.html

    END THE FED: THE FIRST STEP IN RESTORING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC – http://notionalvalue.blogspot.com/2011/10/end-fed-first-step-in-restoring-our.html

  • rainmaker

    @ Pitchman. I must tell you, I love your work and your passion. We need more like you, thats for certain. To respond, I don’t think that anyone is calling for Anarchy. Before we do that, we must first define the word, because it has many meanings, certainly, from a historical standpoint. The Mirriam-Websters definitions are: a: absence of government b: a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority c: a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government. Personally, I prefer c. Immanual Kant described anarchy as Law and Freedom without Violence. Kant was complicated, so were those times. Suffice to say that the statment in my post actually was “A stateless society could work, where freedom prevails, but individuals would have to buy into liberty for all and not just a few.” We could analyze this a bit more…..but its a controversial statement meant to invoke thought and discourse analysis. Anarchy is a word, and when associated with the French Revolution, the Russian Civil War or any of the other civil wars, its pretty scary. I did pull this from that virtual cornicopia of wisdom Wikipedia: “Anarchism is generally defined as the political philosophy which holds the state to be undesirable, unnecessary, and harmful,[1][2] or alternatively as opposing authority and hierarchical organization in the conduct of human relations.” Add in a verb here or there, and you can change the meanings completely. So lets do this, everytime someone uses the word Anarchy, which evokes fear amongst historians, lets instead insert the word “Liberty”. Thats a word I can get my arms around.

    What I am trying to imply is that generally, we are all in agreement. You’ve encouraged me to purchase all the v-50 tapes that Jay Snelson compiled and to listen to them once again. I think we are saying the same thing, but what comes first, the chicken or the egg? I don’t know.

  • @Pitchman
    “What happens when a well intentioned majority wants to take from another for the good of the majority?”

    Without the State, they would have to take arms and personally try to force their will on the rest. With the State, they just have to buy a politician to do it in their behalf.

    As an example. In your own community, you may have a majority who is opposed to the cultivation and use of marijuana. Under a Statist system, they just call the local cops and have your property invaded, your crops confiscated and your body kidnapped. Under a Stateless society they have two choices, arm themselves and use violence against you, with the obvious danger that you will respond in kind and the hazard to their personal health and property, or they can learn to live and let live. How many of your neighbors would take arms and decide to murder you for growing pot? My guess is that very few to none. What happens if they are successful? They have established a societal precedent that states that anyone in the community can murder them and their children over any disagreement. How long do you think they will survive in such a community?

    Stateless societies are self correcting. Social psychopaths and busy bodies either learn to let it be or find their self righteous life cut short.

    Look at the original western societies. Small towns organized and learned to live in courtesy and unity. There was no other way. Even the famous lawmen, such as Wyatt Earp, actually had very few violent encounters. The mere possibility of reciprocal violence opened the door to negotiation as the preferred course of action.

    Do you believe that NYC cops would assault and kidnap protesters if they stood to suffer physical violence? How about DEA thugs breaking into peoples homes looking for prohibited plants? Would they be so eager to enter if they knew that not only would the home owner respond with equal violence but their neighbors would ostercize them for their actions? If they knew that no one would sell anything to them or do any business with them due to their actions.

    We really need to get past the straw man of Anarchy = Chaos. It does not. Statism is slavery. Constitutional Statism is just an attempt to make the slavery less oppressive.

  • Rainmaker and Goldsaver I hear your arguments and understand your desire.

    I understand the various philosophies / states of anarchy. I wish for Rainmacker’s c explanation. I believe the state to be undesirable, unnecessary, and harmful. It’s nature is coercive thus corrupting. However, we must take the desired goal of true self governing and stand it up to the reality of the day. I have been known to lament that man, as an evolving being, has barely descended from the trees. In spite of our desire, an honest scan of our present development stands as a stark reminder; we are a long way from attempting it.

    I agree, Liberty is the gist of the argument. I fully embrace the concept.

    “”A stateless society could work, where freedom prevails, but individuals would have to buy into liberty for all and not just a few.””

    I would like to think that most, maybe not 99% but a vast majority, buy into liberty for all. However, given our present state (our freedoms are under attack), how are we the people to govern ourselves individually when we have proven incapable of governing ourselves as a whole against those who would act against our individual liberty? Even with a pretty good set of guidelines; the rule of law, we have proven to be incapable of mastering the vigilance required to maintain what we claim to embrace.

    I just cant get my mind around it. I loved playing baseball and football as a kid. I’m not sure how these games could be played without a set of standards or if they would be much fun without a way to measure how well we were doing. Maybe it is that competitive nature that’s the problem.

    This is diffidently a good thought exercise. Thanks

  • Goldsaver

    Re your above described politicization. This is a quote I found in a comment at http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/
    I included it in http://notionalvalue.blogspot.com/2011/05/rule-of-law-must-apply-to-all-americans.html

    “if the king and his princes aren’t going to punish the people’s tormentors, isn’t it the right of the people to unseat the king? Didn’t a document some rubes signed back in 1776 say just that? To be perfectly clear, this unwillingness of current leadership to “shake up the tree” while the fruit of that tree is poisoning us, gives us the right to defy that leadership.

    We the People accept that Justice is not divine and have thus acquiesced that justice must be guided by process to minimize error and the persecution of the innocent. However, the king’s abandoning the pursuit of justice is not a legitimate use of process, it is an unjust act favoring one group of citizens beyond all others, to which the People have every right to respond, including decorating lampposts with tyrants and banksters.”

    I am intrigued by the anarchist quick dispensation of justice. And as peace loving as these good folks may be, you do seem to have a number of fine examples of violent resolutions.

    Excuse the jabs. I would like noting more than what you see as the solution. But our self regulating financial markets and Greenspan’s claim that in self correcting free markets fraud could not exist has been proven to be terribly naive.

  • rainmaker

    @ Pitchman,

    First, I enjoy your perspectives and your opinions. Its good to have this banter back and forth. I consider it healthy and thank the stars for sites like this. For along time, I have felt alone in the universe.

    I will agree that “most, maybe not 99% but a vast majority, buy into liberty for all” (or so they will indicate). They will all say it sounds good and of course, none of us would ever think otherwise. No one wants to say otherwise, that would require self inflection and accepting reponsibility. Its probably around 50/50 regarding who say the right thing vs who will do the right thing . There are sociopaths out there, but there always have been and always will be. It is our choice to follow them, allow them to indoctrinate our youth and to control society, or to remove them from our purview. All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to nothing. I paraphrase, but you get the point. Thats where we are now. Evil triumphs and generationally, we run out of good men. Eventually, evil rules unconditionally, but not forever. Evil eventually consumes itself. Our choice, from a free market perspective is to speak out against injustice, and then to walk the walk, not talk the talk. In other words, don’t participate. I’m a romanticist, therefore I believe that Good will always triumph over Evil, except when Good is no longer present. Evil then burns itself out….but the path to get there is dark. We are at the nexus of the rubicon.

    On a lighter note, I really liked your baseball and football analogy. As a kid, I loved those sports (basketball and a few others as well) and I loved to play them. The rules are the rules and we all knew them by heart, its part of who we are. I played little league and pony league and pop warner and a bunch of other organized sports. Never made it to any higher levels, but I think I had the talent and the drive. Thats not the point and I digress. When I think back to those times, my fondest memories are of when a group of kids could go out with a football, a basketball, and/or a bat and a ball and go just play ball. We came home before the streetlights went on in summer. We did not need umpires, coaches, parents or all the other outside influences to explain the rules to us. We knew what they were and could work out a dispute amongst ouselves. If any kid or group cheated, we just quit playing with them. We did not always win, but we played hard and we played fair. It was fun. It started to become unfun when all the outside forces began to hijack our reality.

    I think about the term “rule of law”, and my instinct is that term was invented by a lawyer, judge, lobbiest or someone with a vested interest in perverting good into evil for their own profit. We all have a moral compass; it does not matter if we have been programmed otherwise. Our choice is to do whats right and not to participate with those that do not, or to do nothing when wrongs are occuring or to dogpile on. I know thats simplistic, but “if I ain’t hurtin nobody, leave me alone”. And if your picking on my brother, your picking on me. If others are hurting somebody, lets round em up and run em outta here. If it gets worse than that, then we should address accordingly.

    We can debate till the cows come home (which by the way, they do. Them cows are smart). Someday we will and I look forward to that.

    Keep up the good fight. Stand tall as I know that you do. We got a long haul ahead of us.

  • Let us first right the Republic. As we insure the freedoms that are now being ripped from our social contract and prove we are capable of navigating within and protecting our freedoms, we can begin to remove the training wheels and amend away the coercive nature of government altogether. As that ethic takes hold and is embraced, embedding itself in our very nature, any move to the contrary by an individual, a group or organization may be swiftly dealt with.

    It has to be a long conscious evolution not a quick fix edict.

    2012! Why worry? We need not ponder natural or supernatural calamities. Come they may; what is mortal man to do? It is a lack moral choice and a vision; making way for us to lift ourselves up, to become our higher selves and realize heaven on earth, that makes for tragic outcomes.

  • Playing the ‘Free Markets’ Canard and the Myth of Self Regulation – http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2012/01/playing-free-markets-canard.html

    FROM http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/

    ca·nard/kəˈnär(d)/
    Noun:
    a. An unfounded or false, deliberately misleading story : a fabricated report
    b. a groundless rumor or belief.

    Anyone who has seriously studied applied macroeconomics knows that crony capitalists hate free markets, with all the fairness and transparency that they imply. Competition is a serious drag on enormous profits and introduces significant uncertainty and risk.

    As soon as the game is underway, successful capitalists are constantly pushing the envelope of the rules, seeking to establish rents, monopolies, unfair advantages, and debt traps to snare the bulk of the players and stifle the profit-eroding tendency of real competition.

    The ‘efficient markets’ hypothesis and the denigration of regulation serves to despoil markets of their capacity to create wealth and distribute it in a meritorious fashion.

    This is the basis of all aristocracies, which are merely the institutionalization of privilege. Once they make it they bloody well want to change the rules to hang on to it, and take the risk out of their equation. They foster a culture of two sets of books, two sets of rules, and two systems of justice. They are given over in their personal and professional lives to the benefits of hypocrisy and cheating, with little conscience to restrain them. There is a predatory class that is nationless, without allegiance to anything, any principle, but their own greed and lust for power.

    The wealthy, not only by private fraud but also by common laws, do every day pluck and snatch away from the people some part of their daily living. Therefore, when I consider and weigh in my mind these commonwealths which nowadays do flourish, I perceive nothing but a certain conspiracy of rich men in procuring their own commodities under the name and authority of the commonwealth.

    They invent and devise all means and crafts, first how to keep safely without fear of losing that which they have unjustly gathered together, and next how to hire and abuse the work and labor of the people for as little money and effort as possible.”

    Thomas More, Utopia

    This failing is not particular to capitalism per se, but to any human system. So why not just dispense with rules and let the market have its way? If the system is so much work to maintain and keep free of corruption, why have any system at all?

    THOMAS MORE What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

    WILLIAM ROPER I’d cut down every law in England to do that!

    THOMAS MORE Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat?

    This country’s planted thick with laws from coast to coast, man’s laws, not God’s, and if you cut them down, and you’re just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then?

    Robert Bolt, A Man For All Seasons

    Anyone who thinks human systems function naturally well without rules and enforcement has never driven on a modern motorway in rush hour. To support this theory they must believe in the natural goodness and rationality of all people when motivated by self interest, which is the biggest sucker bet in history.

    And when crime pays, it becomes prevalent. Bad behavior that on the whole succeeds drives out the good, making it impractical. This is the lesson of the recent financial crisis.

    Good government takes hard work and constant renewal and reform. Human systems do not maintain themselves, and are almost never self-improving, but rather given to entropy, manipulation, and deterioration.

    But there are plenty of economists, authors, and editorialists who are willing to say for pay, to talk their own or someone’s book, since there is little accountability for promoting quack thoughts, as there are for quack medicines that kill.

    Merit works, but Privilege pays. And so the one continually undermines the other unless some restraint is applied. And that is the purpose of society and the law in the service of freedom.

  • @pitchman
    “Anyone who has seriously studied applied macroeconomics knows that crony capitalists hate free markets, with all the fairness and transparency that they imply. Competition is a serious drag on enormous profits and introduces significant uncertainty and risk.”

    Agreed. But crony capitalism can only occur under the State. Social psychopaths, unable to progress by their merits, find ways to use the system by outright bribery and deception in order to rob the rest of the market. Such practices can not happen in the free market. Any who rises by chicanery and theft becomes known in the market and his products rejected. Only by prohibiting the entry of new competition in their markets, either by tariffs or monopolistic State enforced charters, can they corner a market and force customers to deal with them. This is most obvious in the behavior of the State itself, the ultimate monopoly. Would you deal with the DMV if a free market option was available? Doubtful. Look at companies like FedEx and UPS. Once the market for packages was made available they crushed the USPS. Only by retaining their monopoly on letters (and hefty subsidies that are confiscated from you at gunpoint) can they stay afloat and that is ending as e-mail has made letter writing almost obsolete.

    “The ‘efficient markets’ hypothesis and the denigration of regulation serves to despoil markets of their capacity to create wealth and distribute it in a meritorious fashion.”

    How, pray tell, since regulation is the tool of the connected to control the unconnected by proxy?

    Regulation only benefits those who write or own the regulators.

    Or are you emphasizing the “meritorious” part of the statement?
    There is no more meritorious measurement than the price system. Free people choosing what they are willing to pay for a product will not choose the worst for their money, they will demand the best. Those with the most merit win in the free market place while those with the shoddiest products for the worst price are rejected and must use the State regulators in order to survive.

    Or is it a fairness argument? Joe should not be more successful than Bill because it is unfair?

    Where is their fairness in rewarding poor performance while punishing greatness?

    “Anyone who thinks human systems function naturally well without rules and enforcement has never driven on a modern motorway in rush hour. To support this theory they must believe in the natural goodness and rationality of all people when motivated by self interest, which is the biggest sucker bet in history.”

    Is your argument then that I must accept the chains of my masters because I can not be trusted with freedom? The humanity is incapable of cooperation and community without the guns of the State?

    If such is your statement, I am sorry to say, I must rebuke you. No human being can condemn another to servitude for the mere fact of his existence and for his own personal convenience. I will not be held in bondage, no matter how much that may disturb others.

    …may the chains lay lightly at YOUR feet.

  • Rebuke away! Is that how you read this? Not me. It is another statement that the social agreement between you and I and our government has been sold down the river to those who despise have to play fairly. It points out that these types of people will come together under all forms of social political and economic structure and conspire to work against you. I a society with no government we will still have to have a social morality that all buy into – even if it is not written or “official”

    “The ‘efficient markets’ hypothesis and the denigration of regulation serves to despoil markets of their capacity to create wealth and distribute it in a meritorious fashion.” They argue efficient markets so as to form trusts and monopolize markets pushing out all competition. The denigrate current understandings for the same purpose and then to pass more rules so as you say they can consolidate power.

    “Anyone who thinks human systems function naturally well without rules and enforcement has never driven on a modern motorway in rush hour. To support this theory they must believe in the natural goodness and rationality of all people when motivated by self interest, which is the biggest sucker bet in history.”

    Your response: Is your argument then that I must accept the chains of my masters because I can not be trusted with freedom? The humanity is incapable of cooperation and community without the guns of the State?

    No; And frankly I was not comfortable with that statement.. I agree with your premiss and only wish man was trustworthy enough to have a society without the coercive power of the state. The point is; written our not, state sanctioned or not, if someone took a Armored Truck out on the Highway every Tuesday and drove in the opposite direction causing death and destruction. You can bet the people would come together and stop it.

    Point is that is precisely what our government and their puppet masters are doing and where are the people to stop it? In a Republic “the people” establish the law and allow representatives to administer it. When the representative government stops serving the people and favor one class it is every patriots constitutional duty to unite with others and amend, dismantle or overthrow the government.

    Merit works, but Privilege pays. And so the one continually undermines the other unless some restraint is applied. And that is the purpose of society and the law in the service of freedom.

    The whole point is that those who work hard and do well are continually undermined by those who choose not to compete on a level playing field undermining the rules to the game to extract rents.

    On New Years eve the President signed the NDAA with provisions that essentially gives the executive the power to deny you of your 4th 5th 6th and 8th amendment rights. He the wrote a signing statement (which while campaigning he said was unconstitutional and he would never do) saying he did not intend to use it on American soil and that the executive branch be held harmless and above the law in its execution. This is an outrage and a travesty of the law. Remember he was not for it then for it and now he is for it because he says he does not mean it — and we put up with this shit.

    Change you can believe in: Wake up & smell your Constitution-free future – http://notionalvalue.blogspot.com/2011/12/change-you-can-believe-in-wake-up-smell.html

    “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” – Thomas Jefferson

    As I said before I would rather we patriots come together and stand against this government that is robbing us of our freedom. Our Republic was formed to limit the coercive nature of government, to protect our liberties and limit its reach into the states and the peoples business. How do you feel we are doing? The beauty of this limited power is that it was to be guarded by the people. We have reaped our sowed neglect. We can work toward living under the principles you espouse but first we must stand together win back God given rights

    The President Declares Freedom & Free Markets Dead – What You Need To Know.

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