SBSS 9. Gold is the Gut Reaction, Silver is the Smart Decision

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Funny how hot button emotional issues divide us over things of NO importance and yet we cannot get people to see the very real shackles we are putting on our children…

“Can’t we all just get along?” -Rodney King

68 comments to SBSS 9. Gold is the Gut Reaction, Silver is the Smart Decision

  • marz

    1:38 what a beauty…
    Just like we get better at anything with conscious practice and discipline, so get these videos and the message they carry. They impress me like when I read the Silver Bullet and the SS article almost a year ago (anybody knows if it´s been translated to Spanish?)

  • Howard

    Can someone plz explain y it is I hear so many “experts” give predictions of 10000$ gold and up , yet when asked about silver they will give silver a price of say 150-200$ price target ? That would imply a 50-1 ratio… Assuming gold and silver go back to a 10-1 ratio silver would have to b 1000$ an ounce… The only thing that makes sense to me is that they might think they will lose credibility if they throw around such large predictions for silver… But any monkey can can do this math so wtf ?

    • lastmanstanding

      Personally, I don’t think that they want you to buy it…so they can.

      But hey, it’s just a roll of the dice…you can choose paper, or you can have precious metals when the dollar is inflated to their-anus or becomes worthless.

      Right now it is a hell of a deal…those who have “strong hands” are the ONLY ones that will find out when the music stops…how’s that for a wtf moment?

  • Dave

    I can’t see how the 1 to 1 gold to silver price ratio prediction is rational. The ratio of silver to gold in the ground is about 10 to 1 and the 1 billion ounces of silver bullion figure that is thrown around discounts all the silverware and jewellery that people of the world have, that might well be traded in if the gold price to silver price ratio contracted a great deal.

    Also, never forget that liquidity flows trump fundamentals, so even if silver “should be” at $150 now it does not mean much if the market disagrees. The central banks have started buying gold, not silver. I think they may have more at their disposal that Joe Public.

    I like and own silver but think that just owning silver and expecting riches to result from just owning silver because it “should be” at some level may be a dangerous game. Having said that I agree it is undervalued but may take a long time to realise a more realistic value.

    I think this is more like the 1930’s than the 1970’s and terrified investor currency may be directed more towards gold rather than silver when the derivatives and debt bubbles truly start to burst.

    Own both is my personal opinion, but thanks for the interesting material.

    • Aurochs

      That seems prudent to me too Dave. Both gold and silver have been money for thousands of years and both are supreme at being a store of value and medium of exchange but as gold is ‘big money’ it is a bit better at being a store of value and as silver is ‘small money’ it has always been more useful as a medium of exchange for daily transactions. That could change but who really knows the future? I own both. I do like the idea that the silver market is so small and that we can help to bring down the banksters and elite paradigm by just buying it (silver bullet theory.)

  • Rattlebone

    Is it better to but “generic” ounce silver rounds, or ” name brand” silver rounds like: Eagles or Maples? Better for name recognition or plain liquidity ability of ANY silver rounds?

    • Aurochs

      My opinion is to buy only pre 1964 90% silver coins rather than generic rounds or bars for several reasons. First, U.S. coins are usually cheaper with little or no premium. Second, coins are legal tender (at face value) and you may find that usefull at some point. Third, U.S. coin is widely recognizeable and during a barter economy, that is very important. Everyone will recognize a washington silver quarter or walking liberty half dollar and they’ll feel comfortable accepting it in trade. Fourth, U.S. coins are available as dimes, quarters, halves and dollars where rounds are generally only available as 1 oz rounds. WTSHTF we will be in a barter economy for some time. Even in a hyperinflation scenario you may need to barter with your silver. You want something that is widely recognized, trusted, and divisible into fractional coins. Pre 64 U.S. silver coin fill the bill. Rounds and bars are ok I guess but you may be forced to trade them only with dealers and pawn shops and that could potentially be a problem. What if you need to deal with a ‘black market’ situation? Stick with coins. 1 oz silver eagle rounds would be ok too and probably silver maple leafs as well.

    • My silver consists of pre-1964 dimes, half dollars and dollars (about 30%), Canadian silver dollars (about 40%) and rounds. Rounds have a much smaller premium and are .999 silver (unlike constitutional money). Canadian dollars have a fixed CND5 bottom (face value) while us silver coinage have a bottom of about $1 an ounce (face value). I have been buying rounds exclusively for the last year or so. My favorite are the First Majestic 1oz rounds (sold by the tube). A beautiful round and .999 silver.

      Rounds are available is fractional amounts. Try APMEX. Problem with fractional coins is the premium per oz.

      Since I truly doubt a MadMax scenario (I see an Argentina scenario as more likely), I am not too concerned with bulk bartering.

  • Rattlebone

    Sorry: To ‘BUY’ silver rounds, not ‘but”…

  • We enjoy your videos, and appreciate the wisdom imparted to people who may really need this as times get worse, hopefully before times get worse. However, my kids also like to watch and learn from your videos. My daughter is 11 and very intelligent. I am glad I previewed this particular video, so she didn’t have to see the women in the silver and gold bathing suits hugging each other while the camera lovingly panning downward to focus on their read ends.

    If you are trying to send a message to help people, why betray their trust with this sexualized message that titillates the men watching and leaves the women wondering what the hell kind of message is being sent here, one of money and safety and security for our families or looking at some hot babes and making a mockery of the brevity of this situation?

    I am very disappointed. In this sad, crazy stupid world, the last thing we need is more sexualized messages especially to make a point about silver versus gold.

    Lame.

    Sincerely,
    Bonnie Bates

    • Silver Shield

      I thought it was cute and since 80% of the audience is male and 90% over 34, I hardly think it is inappropriate.

      • Thanks for letting me know how you feel.

        I will make sure I don’t let me kids watch your smut.

        Sincerely,
        Bonnie

        • chuck

          wtf Bonnie u sure is up tight! Ur kids will see worse than that on any given TV show. I mean really! Two ladies in bathing suîtes? You got some other issues going on. You need help.

          • Bonnie Bates

            No, sir, my kids don’t see worse than that on TV they actually have a parent who cares enough about them to protect them. What is sad is that you two think that is perfectly normal to insert that scene into a silver educational video. I was polite, I spoke my point, the owner made it clear that he certainly wasn’t going to change his mind, so I am making sure my daughter doesn’t watch any more of his “so called” educational videos on silver.

            How is that an issue? Because some mother is actually making sure her daughter doesn’t learn through and start thinking she is merely a body to be oogled all while learning about the aspects of silver? It is selfish to care more about the cute bodies that can be inserted into the videos than caring for the souls of our children who are growing up. Yes, they will see things and will be exposed to it eventually.

            But what is the teaching moment here? There ISN’T one which is why I shall be making the choice not to watch them any longer.

            That isn’t uptight. This is false advertising. If I would have known I never would have watched. It is retarded, are we all adolescent males who never grew up???? Yeah, if the average male is 34 years old watching and cheering this dumb move, then yeah, I guess so.

            Enjoy your shallow little lives with your models in gold and silver.
            I thought the author was better than that…not sure why, but glad I found out now and not later.

            Bonnie

            • Bushwick Bill

              Bonnie,

              Religious fanaticism and/or female insecurity about female sexuality is ewwww.

              • Bonnie Bates

                Really? Now that was an interesting point. Not sure where you got the religious fanaticism part, since I never mentioned religion once. So, let me get this right, it is ok to judge the moral people, but not at all ok to judge the immoral people? If I judge that scene with the bathing suits I am ‘eewwy’ for doing so. But you call me a religious fanatic AND make a judgement as well on my supposed insecurity about female sexuality. Wow.

                Men used to respect women, used to care about how they felt and tried to protect them even when they didn’t know them. Your words, along with others here tell an entire story about where our society has gone. Not only do they not wish to protect women any longer, they now outright attack a woman for attempting to protect her own young from harm. They don’t give a crap about the young (why on earth would they when they can create another unpaid whore out of young girls by subconscious imprinting about what women are really for….???)

                The women in the bathing suits were beautiful specimens of sex appeal. The one of the left had a much nicer curve to her derriere. The hugging added quite a nice woman to woman touch implying a sexual closeness….along with the two smiling for the camera looking over their shoulder in a come hither manner. Both alluring and poignant with expectation of the next moment.

                Just the sort of thing you expect to see when trying to teach your kids about money, silver, politics, and how to preserve their wealth…

                You can make all the comments you like it doesn’t change a thing.

                Bonnie

            • Rottenclam

              I think that is a pretty fair reply from Bonnie (and one that I can totally understand). Kids can see all this stuff, everywhere, all the time…but that is no reason to throw more gas on the fire.

              Bonnie – I have pretty loose morals myself (and I liked the video a lot), but I completely respect your approach. Hopefully you will continue to watch these videos, regardless of what you think of Chris’ character, and hopefully (if they are appropriate), you will share them with your kids. It is never too early to get them thinking about the ‘real’ nature of our money.

            • Dave W.

              As the father of a disabled daughter I don’t appreciate your use of the word retarded. I think it shows a skewed sense of values on your part. You think showing a couple of attractive women in bathing suits is smut, but using demeaning and derogatory language is okay. My wife I found this video informative and the only thing we found offensive was your language.

              • Bonnie Bates

                I wasn’t using it in the context of making a disabled person look bad. Retarded is a cultural slang work back from when I grew up. If I were purposefully being cruel to an actual disabled person then I would deserve your critical observation and would of course apologize to you.

                I did apologize for demeaning Chris’s intelligence and work ethic. Although I didn’t mention the word retarded in my apology, it was a part of what the apology was for because it wasn’t a fair analogy.

                Definition of Smut:

                Inflected Form(s): smut·ted; smut·ting
                1 : to stain, soil, or affect (a crop or plant) with smut
                2 : to become affected by smut

                The image affected the message. Like it or not, agree or not. Just look at what has been written on this page both pro and con and then tell me it didn’t affect the message.

                By the way, are you saying it is wrong for me to object to what I feel offended about, but right for you to object to what you feel offended about? Or is it whoever feels the worst about the offense gets the right to complain the most?

                Or maybe this?

                If the first person gets offended then everyone gets to jump on the first person for being offended because they were really offended by the person writing about originally being offended???

                How about this?

                One tries really hard to impart their feelings in a logical and passionate manner and mistakenly trods on the toes of her fellow American’s, but means well nonetheless.

                (The one above would be me….)

                Bonnie

              • Bonnie Bates

                Ah, found the paragraph you were in reference to.

                This is what I wrote:

                “It is retarded, are we all adolescent males who never grew up???? Yeah, if the average male is 34 years old watching and cheering this dumb move, then yeah, I guess so.”

                Here is the definition of retarded:

                re·tard·ed (r-tärdd)
                adj.
                1. Affected with mental retardation.
                2. Occurring or developing later than desired or expected; delayed.

                Here is the context in which the word was used:

                Sexual maturity and wisdom, occurring or developing later than desired or expected; delayed. In other words I would expect this and if not condoned the image at least UNDERSTOOD and would have expected the image that was being portrayed! I don’t watch comedies made for underdeveloped teen age boys for this very reason. They cater to and show imagery which excites an undeveloped and immature male who has not lived life, married, had children and seen through their children’s eyes. Tried to protect these children.

                Chris had mentioned the average age of the viewer was 34, therefore (in my obviously contentious and inflammatory opinion) I believed and wrote in no uncertain terms that the sexual development of said viewers was RETARDED.

                It was NEVER meant to make fun of your daughter in any way shape or form…

                PERIOD.

                Bonnie

      • Bonnie Bates

        You know what Chris, I owe you an apology for the words I used in my opening comments. I am not apologizing for my stance, nor my ideas which I truly believe are valid through my own experiences and knowledge gained through my lifetime.

        That being said, I believe you have put a lot of time, effort and imagination into creating a work that is top rate. I should never have called what you did a dumb move. Dumb implies that you aren’t smart. You are plenty smart and I apologize for writing dumb move and lame at the ending of my comments. It was inflammatory and not a fair assessment.

        You wrote this at the top of your page today…

        “Funny how hot button emotional issues divide us over things of NO importance and yet we cannot get people to see the very real shackles we are putting on our children…”

        I am not divided, I spoke my mind and you chose a course of action which was your and yours alone to take. It is the work of your mind, you will stand or fall based on that work, not on what I say, think or do. Of course there are things that are not important TO YOU, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t important to other people. What is a shackle? I am sure you know there is more than gold and silver to worry about if things go bad? My children are learning about farming, growing food, raising goats, raising bottle calves, riding horses, delivering all the animal babies, raising dogs, and chickens. I would guess that these things at their age are more appropriate then me showing them women in bikini’s and I am quite sure that their growth will not be stunted nor will they be in shackles because I actually tried my best to prevent them from seeing images not appropriate for their age and maturity.

        Yes, I worded it wrong, but all I asked from you is to think more about your audience than perhaps you were able. I was frustrated because it is difficult to keep them safe in this world, to keep their innocent intact until they are more mature and able to absorb and make choices in maturity. We can have differences in opinion and that is fine. It is your video and you have full control over it’s contents, I am not disputing that or trying to control you. I am just trying to let you know there are other points of view and recalling what Mark wrote:

        “The point Is leaving the girls out would offend no one, while putting them in does or should offend a larger percent of the public than you think.”

        If your intent is to actually HELP people, and you are trying to reach people, why purposefully inflame many people all in the name of showing some eye candy. I could even understand if it were in context.

        Word of mouth is important.

        We are all about to find out once again how important values, compassion, being an upstanding man with an excellent work ethic really means again. Those are not shackles. They are survival traits. Business operates, or used to by the value behind a man’s word. It is about to become a man’s world again.

        What will you men do with it????

        Sincerely,
        Bonnie

        • Silver Shield

          No apology necessary, and I respect your stance.

          I showed my wife the picture and she did not think it was over the line.

          My comment on divided was about all of the responses the stupid picture got over the much more important message of the video.

          Jesus went and spoke to those that needed help the most, the lepers, the prostitutes, and tax collectors. He could have spent his time preaching to the choir but he went out.

          The shackles are debt and death that our paradigm thrives off of not some cute girls in a bikini.

          The question is do you tailor your work to those that need it or already get it?

          • Bonnie Bates

            I thought for quite some time about what you wrote. Part of why I was upset is because part of subverting a nations currency cannot be accomplished without corrupting the populace itself.

            There is more going on than meets the eye. We can see it all around us. I honestly was upset to see it in one of the few places i thought was safe, kid friendly and an incredible learning tool for what is real money. Where does it come from. What is it’s history. Loved the mining episode, all that work for a tiny amount of silver. Then kids really enjoyed it. Concise, showed every aspect of the mining, the grinding, the metal work, the chemicals. It was as good as a field trip!

            You are addressing one aspect of the collapse. There are many tentacles to the same corrupt group which has been documented in many different ways. Is a “cute” picture more important than the work you are attempting to portray? You are purposefully or not, making this picture the lead story…In order to justify the image perhaps and proclaim that you can do whatever you wish to do with your work, which was already true. You chose to make it even more “in your face.” Your choice, your actions, your ability.

            Yes, Jesus helped those who were sinners. But he NEVER glorified the sin. He never set it upon a pedestal for everyone walking by to subjugate themselves to. Sex is a base instinct. That is why it sells. There are many more shackles than just the monetary system. You can deny it and call it cute, but the facts speak for themselves. That is why it caused so much of a deeply felt response on both sides of the issue. It is an issue. It is a deeply felt issue. It is exactly a hot button issue which deeply divides us all.

            If you are honestly asking me, I would tailor your work to those who need it, and reach as many people possible in order to help the common man, the lepers, the prostitutes, and tax collectors. ANYONE can portray the basest instinct. THAT IS EASY. What you are doing, the work you are doing is so much more important than making men (and women) say “Wow!”

            Maybe you underestimate how important what you are doing is? Maybe you don’t really realize how very many people are GETTING it now and how much your work is really helping with that. You are really great at what you do, you provide logic, history, examples, awesome questions, thought provoking images, I love Bernankes face in that one shot, it shows you in one split second just what he thinks about us all!

            Is a cute picture that turns off more people than it helps rally worth promoting in your work when it really gets down the the brass tacks?

            That is entirely up to you, not me.

            I just hope somehow, with all my heart to help you understand there is more going on than some cute girls in bikini’s. The two paradigms don’t mix well. I am all for freedom. I am not on some rampage to change the world and make it free from sin. I just really believe you can help many more people without titillating images, than with the images and isn’t that more important if what you are saying will happen, will really happen?

            Thanks for the good you do.

            We need more people like you.

            Sincerely,
            Bonnie

        • Dave W

          Bonnie,
          Calling African Americans The “N” word is also cultural slang in some areas, that doesn’t make it right. You feeling the need to actually post the definition further illustrates your insensitivity and ignorance.

          • Bonnie Bates

            You turning this into something that it isn’t, doesn’t make what you are doing right either. I found the quote, read what I wrote and you were way off the mark. I wasn’t even using the word retarded as slang. I was going by my memory which was wrong. It was in context as some men being slow to develop sexual maturity. Not poking fun at a disabled person….

            You are the one who is being insensitive and ignorant towards me in this particular case.

            In case you missed it, here it is again:

            Bonnie Bates
            February 9, 2012 at 11:05 pm

            Ah, found the paragraph you were in reference to.

            This is what I wrote:

            “It is retarded, are we all adolescent males who never grew up???? Yeah, if the average male is 34 years old watching and cheering this dumb move, then yeah, I guess so.”

            Here is the definition of retarded:

            re·tard·ed (r-tärdd)
            adj.
            1. Affected with mental retardation.
            2. Occurring or developing later than desired or expected; delayed.

            Here is the context in which the word was used:

            Sexual maturity and wisdom, occurring or developing later than desired or expected; delayed. In other words I would expect this and if not condoned the image at least UNDERSTOOD and would have expected the image that was being portrayed! I don’t watch comedies made for underdeveloped teen age boys for this very reason. They cater to and show imagery which excites an undeveloped and immature male who has not lived life, married, had children and seen through their children’s eyes. Tried to protect these children.

            Chris had mentioned the average age of the viewer was 34, therefore (in my obviously contentious and inflammatory opinion) I believed and wrote in no uncertain terms that the sexual development of said viewers was RETARDED.

            It was NEVER meant to make fun of your daughter in any way shape or form…

            PERIOD.

            Bonnie

  • howard

    Bonnie ur a bit of a control freak eh ? if your kids r as smart as u say im pretty sure they will b just fine even tho they saw 2 girls in a bathing suits lol…it must have been so truamatizing for them to see those beautiful asses, they must b scarred for life haha. just like tv bonnie, if u dont like it, turn the shit off. If your so worried about girls in bathing suits maybe u should watch the videos before you let ur kid watch it…or is that to logical for u?

  • Bonnie has a point. Please understand that while you have the ability to put whatever you want in the video, why would you insert a moral argument into a very good educational video. I would think that a lot more than 10 or 15 percent of the targeted viewers would fall into the consertitve mindset. I have 3 daughters and I would not let them watch the video. The point is I want to but i will not. Yes they hear worse at school but that is exactly why I make sure that they see and here as little non productive clips or shows as possible. If you do not have daughters it is hard to grasp the battle to get them to 21 with the least jaded attitude as possible. Also, if you have no teenage daughter you cannot begain to understand the battle that goes on in their minds about every imperfection they have that air brushed models do not have.

    I think all you hear is change this or you lose 1 viewer. Some people watching this say if you do not like that go somewhere else. I thought the whole reason for the videos was to reach as many people as possible?

    Again the choice is yours. Also please understand I am not judging you or your other wise very informative video. You can do as you wish with them. The point Is leaving the girls out would offend no one, while putting them in does or should offend a larger percent of the public than you think.

  • RealityChick

    Oh dear. I was lambasted months ago with my remark about a Kardashian eye-full. I’ve been around this forum long enough to know most here are thoughtful gentlemen (and ladies) who are just finding their way toward a secure and safe future for themselves as well as their wives, daughters, etc. It’s okay to let a lady rant when she sees female exploitation, okay? It’s a reminder that not everyone expects this on a site like this, that’s all. No forum is perfect–it’s message or it’s commentators. The majority in our gender despise the objectification, but realize it is part of a planned, insidious culture created to diminish our humanity. Some call this “freedom” of expression or whatever. Well, I don’t see men encouraged to bare a little leg, T&A, etc. in this culture in the name of “freedom”, do you? We are all being used as tools by TPTB. Look at us–it’s working. My point: It is the “future” culture that scares the sh** out of us women. Who do you think will be the first victims in even the slightest collapse? Seriously, gentlemen, please ponder this. WE will be the most precious commodity, along with the children. This is real world, people. Most military folks reading this forum sadly know exactly what I’m talking about. It will happen here, too. Sure, black market crap will be alive and well with the most foul of offerings. The 10%’ers here just seek simple understanding from the 90%’ers of what we’re truly fearing–many of you just may not have thought of it in this way, that’s all. But, I know all of you can respect our feelings of fear. Chris continues to pump out some awesome work, and I hope Bonnie will not leave too soon. And it’s okay to preview things as well to ensure they meet your standards. A teachable moment for all, maybe? I’m still here.

    • Bonnie Bates

      I remember that one, but since it was on point (the luxuries of this society epitomized by a culture queen…) I wasn’t really taken aback or surprised. This scene in my opinion was completely gratuitous and added nothing of value to anyone except those who wish to look upon women in that manner. If I wanted to look at women in bathing suits I would buy a Swim Suit edition or put the word swim suits in my youtube, yahoo, google search engine and look away…

      And you are right there are no men hugging each other in their gold and silver g-strings, striking a pose giving a smoking ‘come hither’ gaze to all who happen to come upon them in a silver versus gold video for all the undersexed women in this poor little world.

      I don’t blame you for being worried about the way women will be treated in the coming collapse. Just look at how they are being treated NOW. Only these men are allowed to have a feeling and that feeling is that they should be able to look at all the bottoms they want and the hell with everyone else, even children. If they cannot have their dream image of the perfect ass, if someone dares to even make a comment that might endanger their ass watching…they come unglued and spew out their bile for all the world to read. What happens to the regular women when there is no more pornography, no more fantasy images, no more sexual adrenaline on tap, at any time anywhere?

      I hope things get better in the long run.

      Take care,
      Bonnie

  • Novus

    Where can I get a copy of the image of the gold + silver hotties in SBSS 9 form 5:13-5:21?

  • orgon

    Mining share are the place to be. This guy has some good info. but he does not know market history.

  • marz

    Female exploitation? Metals have no sex. We are ALL exploited. What about the black men with gold hunging from their neck @0:12? Racist exploitation? Hey Chris, find a pic of Eminem for next vid, just in case. What about the woman @2:36? Does she only deserve the dumb role of “Cramer´s rant listener”?
    Taking those 8 seconds (5:13-5:21) of the video, exaggerating their importance and reacting so much is telling something else. Maybe the complaining woman doesn´t think of herself attractive enough. We are ALWAYS speaking of ourselves. The wrong part is to use the child for a concern that belongs to the parent only. Hopefully we don´t start seeing parental advisory warnings from now on.
    We should stay focused here. These videos have the most educational value I can think of. Not only that, it says a lot about the immense generosity of the individuals that put them together and make it available for (almost) everyone.

  • Aurochs

    C’mon folks, let’s cut Bonnie some slack, whaddaya say? She is just trying to protect her kids. Who among you is against that? She came here because she found some truth, something of value to teach her kids. How many parents are doing that for their children? And she only asked that perhaps Chris could be a bit more family friendly in his presentation. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if a couple of school teachers used this site to teach some honest values to their students instead of the socialist garbage they are swimmning in now? But that can’t happen if the language and images are too adult. So cut her a break. We’re not just loosing our freedoms and our economy, we’re loosing our culture too. Don’t be so quick to be a willing part of that. Bonnie Bates; I support your wish to protect your daughters from everything you consider unwholesome and I wish you luck with that. It must be very hard to do in these times. I shudder to think what ugliness their eyes will behold in the days to come. For the rest of us; just because we CAN put most anything we want on the internet doesn’t mean we SHOULD put anything we want on it.

  • marz

    Protection-overprotection…after a limit everything becomes its opposite. At a certain age we all make a huge biologic jump, which once completed leaves us changed. That´s hard to accept completely for some parents, who won´t let “my little baby” go that easy.
    Just because we CAN put all kinds of meanings in any message, doesn´t mean OUR vision is the only valid one.

    • Bonnie Bates

      It wasn’t about protection/over protection. It was about out of place, no warning, out of context, no choice.

      I have a choice now, because I have the knowledge.

      11 years old isn’t when you let little babies go…I am sure you can understand that?
      At a certain age we do become who we are, does that mean I can let her watch hardcore pornography and it won’t change he because she is who she will be anyway? I mean hell, she has to grow up sometime, right?

      You lecture your vision at will, is yours the only valid one?

  • TenMegaton

    How did a discussion about buying silver as a store of wealth and survival turn into this shit.

  • ozarkdoc

    Alright. As a parent, I understand the need to review before viewing with children. Now keep you mind on your money and your powder dry. Good forum.

  • bs

    Where can I get a poster image of the gold + silver hotties in SBSS 9 form 5:13-5:21?

  • John G

    I’m with Bonnie and the others of similar mindset. For me it is a moral and religious principle. I regularly look to share information I find on the internet with my congregants and family. Sometimes I do this over the pulpit. I was ready to share this video with a four hundred people in a captive audience until that image popped up. No matter how good the message is, due to the presentation, I will not share it. I wouldn’t presume to judge other viewers who disagree with what I find morally and socially unacceptable, but I will not stand by my values.

  • John G

    I’m with Bonnie and the others of similar mindset. For me it is a moral and religious principle. I regularly look to share information I find on the internet with my congregants and family. Sometimes I do this over the pulpit. I was ready to share this video with about four hundred people in a captive audience until that image popped up. No matter how good the message is, due to the presentation, I will not share it. I wouldn’t presume to judge other viewers who disagree with what I find morally and socially unacceptable, but I will stand by my values.

  • Tom Knapik

    This material is now considered smut and not worthy of viewing?

    Can you say overblown

    I have two young girls and can’t stand the bombarding of sexual images, but now you deem Chris’s material as smut and trash is an absolute overreaction.

    You see more skin at the local community pool, but that doesn’t stop me or the other parents from having good clean fun.

    In Europe, the girls go topless and families have no issues.

    What is the truth

    • Bonnie Bates

      I wouldn’t call it overblown, perhaps over reacted in anger because I too am fed up with the bombarding of sexual images. I thought about what I had written and apologized to Chris for what I wrote that was not fair of me to write.

      What you see at the pool is people having fun. Not posing to be an object of people’s lust. There is a difference as you wrote yourself. They are not one and the same.

      We aren’t in Europe, we are in America who has undergone a profound cultural revolution. Common sense would tell me if I were raised in Europe with their values and exposed to people who were topless then I would of then course have different values and be a different individual. Am I supposed to do what everyone in Europe is doing just because that is how they do it over there? Should I bow to the Queen and be an abject citizen with no freedom and go topless when I feel like it? Should I put my kid in a burka because that is how they do it in Iran and Iraq ect… perhaps I should look at how they treat kids in Spain, or Africa and do things the way they do things over there?

      The truth is this country is not the country I grew up in. The truth is everyone has a deep feeling in their gut about what is coming so it isn’t easy to be polite and nice and let go of everything they see happening. Sometimes you feel as though you would like to scream “STOP!!!!”

      But nobody listens. And then you watch a video from someone who’s work you really admire and the same stupid muck you are trying to avoid like the plague is right in your face once again. No where left to turn, many people don’t give a damn and as a matter of fact they get pissed for you even mentioning it….

      THAT IS TRUTH….

      Bonnie

      • Tom Knapik

        Bonnie,
        First and foremost we are more in agreement than not.

        We both understand the need to protect our children from the over sexualized media and its quest to shape its audience for maximum purchasing of goods.

        “Common sense would tell me if I were raised in Europe with their values and exposed to people who were topless then I would of then course have different values and be a different individual”

        Your half way to understand my point that value systems of a given region are different, but I don’t judge the value system to be wrong. Just different from what I have been trained to believe is correct.

        So which value system is the truth. Both

        “Should I bow to the Queen and be an abject citizen with no freedom and go topless when I feel like it?” You kinda lost me with this rant.

        Last note: I had my very conservative mother who is 84 years old and a church sacristan for 25 years give her feelings on the matter.
        See felt your reaction was overblown and detracted from the overall message, but understood your wanting to protect.

        See also says life is short and enjoy, but then again she always says that.

        I believe that is the truth

        • Bonnie Bates

          The point I was making is, we aren’t in Europe. I don’t even consider if their value system is right or wrong because it really doesn’t matter what I think about it. It is an interesting fact, curious, different, but nothing to do with us here in America. So you pointing out what people do in Europe in my opinion had nothing to do with the situation.

          I could be wrong, I often am….but I do try to think about how I might be wrong and what I can do to change that. I don’t believe that thinking about how people do things in other countries has anything to do with how we do things in our country. I fully understand that there are different value systems but (again) not sure what that fact does to change this discussion? We don’t do that here.

          We won our independence from Britain. England, Britain and the United Kingdom are European and have always been in Europe (Western Europe) and now they are also part of the European Union. It galled me to think that perhaps you thought I should consider what we do here as any part of what they do over there. Their freedom is decimated, if not gave up it was taken away. They are in complete moral decay. Their currency is collapsing completely. They have riots, mayhem, exactly what is coming here is happening there.

          I do not hold their values as something I would want to emulate…to be like, to admire, to copy, to adhere to.

          There Is No England Now (Living On a Thin Line)
          http://youtu.be/UBasdIOVY7c

          Now I notice some men here try to use the fact that women, your grandmother or their wives ect…think it is fine and dandy to plaster a sexually charged image into the video. Just because some women have the same ideas the men do on this subject does not and will never make me believe I am being overblown or detracting from the message. I firmly believe the opposite, that the picture was overblown and detracted from the message. The message was actual silver versus actual gold, not “which girl would YOU like? The one in silver or the one in gold?”

          Just because some women for whatever reason, believe that doesn’t make me feel as though I am wrong. Good for them, they can feel fine about it. That is their choice. But to use it to try to make me feel as though I am this or that is just manipulation.

          I’d like to know how a comment that Chris had to post himself (it is moderated here) detracted from the overall message? Again, I have no power over the matter but that of my opinion. It is his work. His work appealed to me on a logical, factual, historical basis. It appealed to me because I could teach my kids about these matters. Now, the tool I enjoyed has been removed from my personal options, unless I preview every moment.

          You yourself wrote you were tired of being bombarded with sexual images. Then why are you trying to defend the use of this photograph with everything you have, including using your conservative, church going grandmother? Perhaps all of you know deep down that it really isn’t all that hot of an idea, but for some reason felt the need to ask a woman, and if a woman says it is alright…then you are morally freed from your actions and thoughts. That is a lie to yourselves and a lie to what is honorable and what is right. It is a way to keep coveting beauty without unwanted guilt. To despise someone who points out the obvious.

          Smut doesn’t always mean hard core pornography. I believe the use of the English language has devolved, unfortunately.

          Definition of Smut:

          Inflected Form(s): smut·ted; smut·ting
          1 : to stain, soil, or affect (a crop or plant) with smut
          2 : to become affected by smut

          Life is short, and I do enjoy it. I also enjoy exchanging opinions, always have. I don’t think that is a bad thing, and I try very hard to be fair in what I say, what I believe and what I advocate. In my heart, this image was unfair. It was gratuitous…

          Definition of GRATUITOUS
          1
          a : given unearned or without recompense b : not involving a return benefit, compensation, or consideration c : costing nothing : free

          What was once earned only by marriage is now given freely for all to look at, without payment, no return benefit, consideration or respect. It has saturated every aspect of our lives. It has become the norm, the expected, the defended, the aspiration of young women to become more like that so they too can earn the respect of men now. They are emulating women on women behavior so they can “get a boy” ….

          This is what is happening in your glorified Europe, and I am quite sure here as well….the protections were in place to protect women. These days I guess even the women with throw their own to the wolves. Where does it end?????? Yes, that picture is absolutely tame compared to this article. However, the silver and gold bikini picture has elements in it of what is happening as a whole to our society. Which is why I took a vocal stand.

          How dare I?

          You decide, but I have made my stand.

          Sincerely,
          Bonnie

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          “The English verb to chaperone comes from the French noun ‘chaperon’ – protector – and it is first recorded in Jane Austen’s novel Sense And Sensibility, published in 1811.

          Then, the reputation of a young woman was considered so precious that she was protected at all times if in male company by the presence of another woman: a chaperone.

          In Jane Austen’s world, a young woman and a young man were rarely, if ever, left alone together.

          Two hundred years later, with sexual and feminist revolutions behind us, we’re in a world where there are few, if any, boundaries in place to ‘protect’ a woman’s honour. ”

          ‘This stuff is everywhere now because of the way technology is changing,’ he says. ‘Kids can get it on their mobile phones, through their TV sets and iPods. Tragically, porn has never been easier to access.’

          And that ‘easy access’, according to a group of 15 to 17-year- old girls I met while researching this article, is changing the way their boyfriends are approaching sex.

          These young women are articulate, confident, streetwise. They come from a selection of London’s top independent and state schools, are dressed in slinky black skirts, dark tights, trendy T-shirts and Ugg boots.

          They are charming and respectable, but what they tell me is shocking.

          ‘Boys just want us to do all the stuff they see the porn stars do,’ one 16-year-old girl told me. ‘It’s as if we have to pretend we are in a movie.

          ‘They want us to dress like porn stars in sexy underwear, have bodies that look like porn stars, and sound and behave like them too when we are alone. That’s why we like to have our friends around us now.’

          Another 15-year-old told me that what her 16-year-old boyfriend had wanted her to do had made her cry.

          The sexual request is not suitable to be described in a family paper, but as the mother of three daughters aged 16,15 and 13, I found it particularly upsetting.

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1255856/Teenage-boys-watching-hours-internet-pornography-week-treating-girlfriends-like-sex-objects.html
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  • Howard

    The one on the right is much curvier :) , Bonnie u need to chill the fuck out , I feel terrible for ur kids, 11 yrs old r babies ? Wtf… Raise ur kids anyway u want, but stop pushing ur morals on everyone else, let the free market decide if they like the video or not.

    • marz

      I´d prefer the silver, if you don´t mind.

    • Bonnie Bates

      lol…I am a Veterinary Technician. x-rays, MRI’s ect, when looking at pictures I have to think about it in my mind from looking at the front, not the back. You are absolutely correct. The woman in the picture on the right is the more ‘cuvier’ :) hunk of flesh displayed openly for your lust. Sorry to have been so technical about it all.

      As for the little babies, those were in context to a reply by Marz who called them little babies. No 11 year old people aren’t little babies. However they don’t need to be saturated with sexual eye candy just because they are 11 and not 2.

      I can speak freely here obviously, it is a moderated board.

      If you don’t like what I write, don’t read it, just like they told me if I don’t like what is on the video….don’t watch it.

      Bonnie

  • thankful

    I concur with Bonnie’s concern, and yet also know this is a very good teachable moment. I would say to my teen girls, Do you see what these women are doing? Do you see how men see them? Just look at the comments… I want a copy of the picture… so They can ogle them, they then desire them, they want them.. although they know nothing about the person at all… only their body, some of these very men who put all stock in a woman’s worth in her looks would leave her if she got a mastectomy (it has happened)… sometimes they want the picture more than their wives even, their wives become unattractive and cannot live up to the expectations from the images, which has ruined many marriages. Men are tempted very much with visual images, so manner of dress is very important not to mislead someone. Modest dress is also protective of the girls. If men don’t know what you have and you are saving it for your spouse, they will not be tempted to hit on you for a one night stand, or see you in a lecherous way. The type of men you will attract are the ones that are interested in who you are as a person, who will be willing to sacrifice for you, take care of you, and cherish you as a woman and mother of their children. This is the type of man I’d want my girls to date and marry. Prudent discernment of character is very important, and addiction to titillating images is not one of those things high on the list.

  • thankful

    We forget, its the morals and virtues that have been lost that have brought our society so low. If everyone was virtuous, we wouldn’t have the theft of our savings from greedy bankers and money market casinos. We wouldn’t have the artificial manipulation of the gold and silver markets. We wouldn’t have marriages that can’t hold together, which is the backbone of society. We wouldn’t have the type of selfishness that is blind to the need of anyone else, and so is willing to exploit the needy for power and control. The globalists and the communists had to degrade society in order for their model to work, and it starts with eliminating all morality. Bread and circuses, who cares what else is done as long as I have my entertainment.

  • marz

    Almost died of laughter this morning when I saw the disclaimer and the beautiful ounces (in the sense of wild cats, also) extracted!!

  • Delta2187

    Guys – man is she uptight.
    In retrospect, how sad that was my first reaction! She respectfully and thoughtfully made her (completely valid) point. I’m reminded daily, by a body that protesteth too much, that I’ve reached some level of advanced maturity. I would greatly benefit (as would our society) by using my experiences and observations to more fully shape my behaviors and more forcefully give warning to others about the signs of decline that surround us. Kudos to Bonnie for being involved, for caring, for educating herself and for (gently) suggesting that this venue debases itself by delving into the purient. I hadn’t thought of introducing my sons or daughter to this site – but would love to share it with them – sans the bikinis. All the best to you and yours Bonnie!

    • Bonnie Bates

      I had time to think about what I wrote and after seeing what Chris wrote at the top today, I reevaluated my own opening statement and realized I had made a huge mistake as well.

      You don’t call what someone put their heart and soul into a dumb move.

      Thank you very much for your kind words and for understanding what I meant.

      I am not at all ugly, jealous or even lacking in feminine sexuality as has been inferred. I am however quite adamant about protecting my young from obvious harm, even if the entire world disagrees with me. I am only one person. I am sure my ideas won’t maim anyone or take anything away from them. I am quite outnumbered obviously :)

      Take care and all the best to you and yours…
      Bonnie

      • jim steek

        Miss Bonnie: My hill-top view is that of a male who throughout life has enjoyed womens’ special attention and that I also respected their particular individual perspectives. We are reminded this time of year in particular, during the calving season, of the incredible miracle of birthing, which then, is only surpassed by the the lofty feat of being a good mother . Good motherhood is THE most important position held here on this wonderful green earth, and sadly, an elusive goal to so many women.
        The old Glen Cambell song …..’the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world’
        says it all —–& Bonnie you ARE a good mommy, ma’am. Thanks
        Jim Steel

        • Bonnie Bates

          Jim,

          Compliments such as this are few and far between. Thank you so much, your words brought tears to my eyes. The last time I felt this was when a farmer up the road looked me in the eyes and shook my hand because I took care of my grandmother with Alzheimer’s at our home rather than put her in a retirement institution. You cannot of course look me in the eyes and shake my hand, but the feeling is exactly the same.

          Thank you sir….It means more than I can express in words.

          Take good care,
          Bonnie

  • marz

    The debate got to the issue of morals and virtues, which put me to think & search. I found that ‘scruple’ refers to a moral misgiving, a doubt between good/bad-right/wrong-true/false, and also to a small unit of weight or measurement (1/24 oz). Furthermore, that what is fixed, layed down, measured by a rule, is called ‘law’ (‘ley’ in Spanish, a unit of measurement as well). It tells what is ‘just’. Lady Justice carries a scale. Justice is one of the seven cardinal virtues. And ‘virtus’ means moral strength, manliness, valor, worth (from vir ‘man’). So we didn´t go too far from the main subject, after all.

    • Bonnie Bates

      Ah, the good ol days…

      :)

      Thanks for the research. I felt it, perhaps read it in my life, but did not recall those historical facts.

      Take care,

      Bonnie

      • marz

        You´re welcome. It´s so good when exchange of ideas leaves us with…more ideas, and therefore knowledge. Your first comment sparkled a sequence of opinions that led me to search. Incredibly, that night I turned on the TV and caught that part of The Merchant of Venice (when they go to court) that has all the elements: morals, virtues, scruples, pounds, scale, law, justice, metal coins…that Shakespeare son of a gun! I’m curious to know what those 3000 ducats would be worth today.

        • Bonnie Bates

          I believe that as well. It is great when ideas are exchanged and we can find common ground on ideas that were once the mainstay of the American people. That which once was firmly entrenched in their values. Value of coin, value of virtue, value of action.

          Our country was once ruled by law rather than by men. According to what is fixed, layed down, measured by a rule…

          ~~~
          “U.S. Constitution – Article 1 Section 8

          To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;”

          Also:

          “Section 10 – Powers prohibited of States

          No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.”
          ~~~~

          I am quite sure usury wasn’t what they had in mind, with worthless paper money governed and regulated by ultra rich families accountable only to themselves, those beneficiaries of The Federal Reserve Act. Having the truly productive individuals in our society sheared like sheep by faceless men with banker suits on. And by individuals, I do not mean corporations, which are no more individual than a bee hive is individual.

          But when the populace is sidetracked with minutia and willing to let go of most if not all virtue, those faceless men descend upon us with no restraint and no holding back. With the populace itself helping them to restrain us even further.

          Even with all of our history, all of our knowledge, all of our technology and the protection of an amazing document that was meant to protect the freedom of the individual from such tyranny…we are undone once more and history is repeating itself once again. Mankind capable of so much, is yet again on the brink of a precipice.

          Why?

          Many people trading comfort for freedom, rather like Judas trading money for honor. Trading by letting the state and federal government teach the young, rather than doing the uncomfortable and the difficult and training our young ourselves. Trading taking care of ourselves in old age for the promise of a SS check. The list could go on and on of course, but that is the general drift.

          “Give me your children for one generation and I will change the world.”
          — Joseph Stalin

          And so, he has…

          Former Russian Agent: Public Schools Targeted!
          http://youtu.be/mDDBZuheQxs

          Yuri Bezmenov: Deception Was My Job (Complete)
          http://youtu.be/y3qkf3bajd4

          Bonnie

  • “If you don’t hold it, you don’t own it”… Ponce

    Thanks for using my quote…….

  • JayInKett

    Chris, thanks for the discretionary warning about this video. The segment showing Jim Cramer is just too obscene and ugly. I wouldn’t want my wife and kids seeing that!

  • El Plateado

    Thanks for the good video about silver. Next time kick the trolls off instead of arguing with them. They don’t get it. Off to buy more silver.

    • Silver Shield

      Bonnie is not a troll she has been around awhile and I appreciate her opinion.
      I hardly ever censor here I believe ideas should stand or fall of their own merit.

      And keep stacking of course… :)

  • Silver Shield

    I think we have talked about this enough… moving on.

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