Iran: Big fan of Capital Punishment

Its 1391 in Iran, you best pass on that grass; if you want to save your ass. It is literally 1391 according to Iran’s calendar, and here I thought I was always a contrarian? Back in 76′ when we were celebrating our bi-centennial the last Shah of Iran (see 1953 US led coup) flipped the calendar from 1355 to 2535… overnight! The Persians, well, they apparently take contrarianism to another level. Obviously the irony of that difference in centuries isn’t lost on me when I seen this headline in the Washington Post last night:

 

Amnesty International: Iran publicly executed 4 times as many people in a year of crackdown

 

My first thought was “well, Iran is trying to reduce gasoline usage” but I figured that was even too drastic for this regime… but not too far off. As I read I was surprised to learn that:

1. The executions are in public for everyone to see.
2. About 80 percent of the executions involved drug offenses and many were minors.
3. Iran’s Penal Code make demonstrations, public debate and the formation of groups deemed a threat to ‘national security’ punishable by prison or death

What jumped off the page was that drug offenses are the overwhelming majority of the executions. But that doesnt touch the ludicrous notion of sentencing minors to death, I mean wow. I would continue but I think there isn’t much else to be said. Public debate is one of the many offenses that could be cause for a stoning or hanging… writing this blog and you reading it could be two acts that were punishable by death. Does this not seem like something taken out of the dark ages?? Circa 1391??

It makes sense though. Drugs and public debate (both offenses) would open up some eyes resulting in a formation of groups (also an offense) of like minded “awoken” people and before you know it, national security would be threatened. You would have yourselves another Arab spring uprising. While I don’t agree, I can see the Iranians reasoning. Had anyone have the insight and organization it would end that theocracy resulting in public executions of the publicly “elected” leaders. Basically, its a little C.Y.O.A.

This had me thinking about our nation and it dawned on me that some people would prefer a government that blends their faith here in the states. Take Slick Rick, Santorum actually said this past week he doesn’t believe in the “absolute separation of church and state”. While some might rationalize this or explain it the bottom line is any type of religious beliefs should always be excluded because religion isn’t exactly inclusive. Its been the basis for a few conflicts over time. You will always have people that will become disenfranchised and government cannot be in the business of playing favorites or picking winners (hahaha).

The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful souls, but there is a small percentage of them and a high percentage of them running entire nations that use pieces of the Koran to justify horrendous acts. There is also rouge groups of men that use the Koran to endorse and carry out terrorist acts. Now, superimpose that here if we didn’t have the separation of church and state or if we started chipping way at that now.

The overwhelming majority of Christians are peaceful souls but there is that 800 lb crazy book in the room like the Muslim version, but older… and with a sequel starring a pretty cool hippie with a sandals. Being Slick Rick is Christian; have you ever read Deuteronomy or Exodus? Imagine if someone started bringing those books to capital hill for show n tell? Gee, i hope they wouldn’t pick out the parts concerning the murder of unbelievers (yikes). Praise God, we have the separation of church and state.

 

null     <—- Notice where “faith” ranks in the order????

11 comments to Iran: Big fan of Capital Punishment

  • Jeff

    AMEN Brother….

  • RealityChick

    @Pitchman,

    This is your third article in a week that appears to “beat the war drums” for Iran. Is that the point of this article as well? I’m sure your research discovered China out-doing Iran on executions 10-fold — why no mention of that? And with the U.S. hailing around #5 in the world of number of executions, maybe we could discuss how we can stop this insanity right in our own backyard instead of judging other nations who don’t even threaten the U.S. (we DO have 40 bases surrounding Iran — I’m confident the Trillions of DOD money won’t fail us should something be launched). I would even argue to say that decades of consistent and long-term interventionism around the world (like overthrowing democratically elected Mosaddeq in 1953 Iran) helped to create and maintain the conditions ripe for such injustice. And who do you think is in control of and distributing the drugs around the world. Yeah, that would be “US”. Maybe we should re-tally the number of U.S. executions to include all executions that we’ve made possible due to our need for global empire. Plus, I don’t think we’d want another country, especially of a different culture, telling us whether or not we should have separation of church and state. Governments will thrive or decline on their own merits.

    • RealityChick

      *EDIT* @Fletchlives!!

      • Re: Reality Check’s correction:

        Killing outside eminent direct threat of life is MURDER. The digging of a hole in which to put child rapist/murderer and shooting them opens the way for much larger holes to be filled with what ever those in power deem necessary.

        War other than to stop an attack on humanity is MURDER in mechanized production.

        Orwellian preemption is 1st degree Murder.

        That the Iranian Leaders are backward begs us to pay closer attention to how we act and those who act as “OUR REPRESENTATIVE” act on our behalf.

        I am with the diametric persona of Mustafa Cohen and need to better understand your point and fear that we again are being dragged into an argument, in the case WAR, where the problem is presented as though it is from outside of us.

        Better to remove the plank from our own eye to get a clearer view of reality.

    • Fletchlives

      My articles if you read them are not “beating the war drums” they are just a reflection of reality. If the drum of war is on the horizon and it is, there is nothing that you and or i can do to stop it other then understand why and what will the eventual outcome will be. Yes, China is #1 in executions, but china is a secular nation with a population that dwarfs Iran. China has 1.3 Billion. Iran has 73 Million. Do you know how many more people live in Iran then China? Do the math. Its more then a 10 fold, its about 14-1, so technically, using your angle, they commit less executions per capita the Iran… facts can be pesky, I know. China, like the Us, contrary to popular belief, is becoming more capitalistic by the day and their citizens (unlike here by our elected leaders) are encouraged to buy silver and gold… so before you make some weak attempt to compare the two understand the vast differences. My posts come from my blog. My blog is called fileintothetrough. The subtitle, is: exposing the false right left paradigm one lie at a time. I understand fully what we are doing in the prison industrial complex and what we are doing in the drug trade in the form of importation by the feds. I dont disagree with you. You are completely however missing the point of the article and what it seems, all of my articles up to this point and maybe that is my fault because im not being concise enough? This article in particular, i was using Iran’s harsh theological government as an example for what Rick Santorum would favor here and the dangers of that. Its a parallel. Nothing more. Read it from that lens and see if that makes sense?

  • Mustafa Cohen

    [entire post]

    1. What are you trying to say?
    2. How is the speck in Iran’s eye any of your business?

    • Fletchlives

      Im a little shocked at two of these responses that miss what i thought was pretty obvious comparison in drawing a parallel to religious influences in Iran and the modern (santorum wing) Republican party here and how religion and government are a toxic relationship. How is it MY business?? Iran holds the only “westernized” society over there. Unlike an ally of the ours (see Saudi Arabia) there is a large population in Iran that wants a more westernized society. I see it here with Iranians in the states. I have been told from Iranian immigrants that they’re many many Muslims that do not favor or endorse their leaders positions on things. That is basically how i feel about myself in this country. And attacking that nation would only lose that support from them.

      As a matter of fact, i was out to lunch yesterday with two DO’s (osteopath), husband and wife whom are both Pakistani and they say many of the same things and still have many family and friends there that share those views as well but must remain silenced. How is it my business?? I sir, find that offensive HOW YOU DONT MAKE IT YOURS. I mean, executing kids and drug users? We are all people, regardless of what imaginary borders are drawn up to separate us. There is a population that want freedom and liberty like us but may be bombed and engaged in a bloody war over petrodollars as we are grasping at straws to hold onto our own liberty and freedom. In case you have missed it whether it be the Arab Spring or Ron Pauls influence not only here but around the world… people are racing towards freedom. This is a concern for everyone who loves freedom and wants others to share that with us. Just because we are fighting for ours still here doesnt mean we should take our eye off the ball over there.

      • Mustafa Cohen

        1. What are you trying to say?
        Understood. If the audience is confused about one’s message, it’s not the audience’s fault.

        » I sir, find that offensive HOW YOU DONT MAKE IT YOURS. I mean, executing kids and drug users? «

        Minding my own business is the business I am in. Let parents worry about their kids, and drug users worry about themselves.

        » they’re many many Muslims that do not favor or endorse their leaders positions on things «

        They can leave, fight or change. It’s their life, their choice, their fate. You can’t live other people’s lives.

        You are not responsible for everything that happens in the world – it would be a sign of acute megalomania to think otherwise. You can’t claim a share in other people’s successes and failures.

        » there is a large population in Iran that wants a more westernized society «

        There is a large population right here, wherever you are, that wants a less westernized society. Why strain your eyes looking for a noble cause across the globe?

        » people are racing towards freedom «

        They are, aren’t they? Why don’t we step aside and let them?

        • Fletchlives

          “They can leave, fight or change. It’s their life, their choice, their fate. You can’t live other people’s lives. Minding my own business is the business I am in. Let parents worry about their kids, and drug users worry about themselves. They are, aren’t they? Why don’t we step aside and let them? You are not responsible for everything that happens in the world – it would be a sign of acute megalomania to think otherwise”

          This a bulk of what you said to me above. I pointed out what is an obvious human rights problem by any decent standards in Iran. I never said the US should attack Iran. I never thought it was any grounds for anything other then criticism. If i cant criticize another or my own government based on facts, then maybe you are the one with the confused message. Thats about as silly an excuse as you can come up with. Its not your place to call a country here or abroad out for something that is egregious?

          I just pointed out facts from the AP and then made the case, that is what can happen in a government that uses religion as its backbone instead of Freedom, because religion of any kind is divisive, collectivism and its anything but free. That is the kind of government Santorum favors. I would assume most people understood the topic and you are correct, if its not the audience’s fault for not understanding something. Likewise, its not the writers fault if one or two people lack the comprehension skills or an open mind, to adequately piece together ideas without their feelings getting involved.

  • Fletchlives

    You will always have people that will become disenfranchised and government cannot be in the business of playing favorites or picking winners (hahaha)

    Maybe this caused some confusion? The American taxpayer is on the hook for 60% of GM. Thus the government is doing just that, picking winners and losers.

    • And in that is the problem.

      Our government does not represent the people.
      Same with Israel (Witness AIPAC – Jon Stewart Pointed out the only Politicians that can criticize Israel are in the Knesset)
      and Iran… and….and hence global uprisings that will eventually lead to a great reset. So far the global money power elite have been keen at preemption, misdirection and obfuscation while accelerating the transfer of wealth and control.

      With each passing day the eventual reset becomes a larger event.

      Thanks for a little clarification.

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