Brandon Raub Set to Be Released!

Letter to the editor:

Chris,

Just wanted to let you know that I think your recommendations to folks to “walk away” from the system and disengage are right on track.  There is a definite inclination to actively resist/fight back (whatever one wants to call it) in response to what we perceive as the theft of our country, but I think you are calling it correctly with this advice.  If I recall correctly, your earlier videos (of a few days ago) in response to BR’s incarceration, focused to a degree on what he could or would do (publicize the event and take legal action) once he got out.  Developments show you were right.  Had he actively resisted the arrest (and that’s what it was, legal or not, procedurally Kosher or not) he could have ended up killed or severely injured.  Now he’s in a position to respond effectively and in way that can also be a useful lesson for all involved and all who are paying attention.

So, thanks for (1) the good advice on this (and for disseminating it), for (2) video #55  Delete Facebook [been sending out the link to that (been off Facebook for two years anyway having come to the conclusions you cite, after studying it and using it (to disseminate info that nobody seemed to care about anyway) for 3 months or so] and (3) your comments on the BR incident in general.

Also, for what it’s worth, I understand and concur with your decision to adopt a bit of a lower profile and finalize preparations.

Best regards and wishes,
Dave T

I know it is Alex, but this is interesting.  Brandon’s experience inside the psychotherapeutic state.  Everyone should get John Whitehead’s contact number. Rutherford.org.

Brandon’s Lawyer speaks out with more details about his case.  The key take away was that his mother was smart enough to talk about it and get attentions of others or his lawyer says most people just disappear.  He said this case just “gave him the creeps.”  I am glad that they are suing the government in a civil case.  This is a good way to make them reconsider future actions like this.

Here is my interview with what I saw about Brandon’s case.

http://youtu.be/5HXo2rDpSDU

I finish up the interview with a bit on silver’s recent action and final thoughts on Brandon.

http://youtu.be/-yitmOrHh2o

Original Article

HOPEWELL, Va. —

A judge today ordered the release of a Marine Corps veteran being detained as a psychiatric patient after concerns over his Facebook postings.

After an hourlong hearing, Circuit Judge W. Allan Sharrett said an involuntary commitment petition issued against Brandon J. Raub was invalid because it contained no allegation or basis to holding him.

“The petition is so devoid of any factual allegations that it could not be reasonably expected to give rise to a case or controversy,” said the release order signed by the judge and sought by lawyers Anthony F. Troy and Brian D. Fowler.

Sharrett said that he was shocked by the failure of a magistrate to not include in the order any grounds for holding Raub, a Chesterfield resident who was transferred from John Randolph Hospital in Hopewell to the Salem Veterans Affairs Medical Center.

Cathleen Thomas, Raub’s mother, said after the hearing that as soon as an order is entered by the court, she will head to Salem to get her son.

“This is phenomenal.” she said. “This could have happened to anyone. We’re not about allowing wrongs like this to take place.

“This has never been about anything but freedom of speech…. We’re going to continue to post on Facebook.”

Thomas said her son is a “true patriot” who gave up military benefits for a back injury so the money could go to another veteran.

Raub, 26, who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, was taken into custody last Thursday after the Secret Service, FBI and Chesterfield Police arrived at his North Chesterfield home. An FBI spokesperson said the agency had received inquiries from people concerned about the nature of postings Raub had made on his Facebook page.

Monday he was ordered to be detained for 30 days by a special justice who presides over commitment hearings.  Special Justice Walter Douglas Stokes also ordered Raub to be transferred from John Randolph to the VA Hospital in Salem, about 180 miles from his home and family.

The Rutherford Institute, a civil liberties organization based in Charlottesville, challenged Raub’s confinement, arguing that he is mentally fit and has become the target of an overzealous, unauthorized police action.

In an interview Raub gave to a radio station from the Hopewell hospital, Raub sounded alert and clear-thinking, at one point urging the public to “educate yourself.”

“Find and rediscover the ideas of liberty and freedom,” he said “Those are the ideas that make us great as people.”

No information has come forward regarding what medical personnel determined is Raub’s clinical condition. Raub told the radio station that he talked with assessment personnel for about 25 minutes.  It was not clear if Raub was provided with legal counsel or given an opportunity to receive an assessment from a physician of his own choosing.

Facebook postings by Raub generally involved impassioned pleas for a return to American ideals of freedom and independence but also speak of betrayal by elected leaders.

“Your leaders are planning to merge the United States into a one-world banking system,” he wrote.  “They want to put computer chips in you… these men have evil hearts.  They have tricked you into supporting corporate fascism. We gave them the keys to our country. We were not vigilant with our republic.”

On Aug. 15, Raub posted that “the Revolution is here. And I will lead it.”

He went on to say,  “I know many of you think I’m going crazy and are wondering just why I have been posting the things I have been posting,” he wrote Aug. 11.  “I don’t have the energy to explain.  Just know that a new bneginning is coming.”

On Aug. 4 he wrote, “I am standing against a great evil.  I will do it all by myself if I have to.”

Raub told The Times-Dispatch over the weekend that he served in the Marines from 2005 until 2011 and was a combat engineer sergeant.  He said he operates a home-based silver numismatic-coin business.

47 comments to Brandon Raub Set to Be Released!

  • CAJUN

    Thank God! My prayers were answered.

  • mong00se

    Sue them

    • Silver Shield

      +100000000

    • dabear88

      Piling on…thanks be to god for giving his judge the strength to stand up to these bozos who spend their day’s scanning the Internet and thought policing the world. +1 Sue their asses Brandon!

  • John

    Essentially, Judge Sharrett overruled the tyrannical NDAA, which, I would imagine, was the TRUE basis for Brandon’s kidnapping (unless the government agents involved were simply a bunch of ignorant boneheads).

    When the NDAA is the motivating factor in a person’s detainment, due process is not necessary or to be expected. So in essence, the judge proclaimed the illegitimacy of the NDAA by releasing Brandon and upholding the necessity of due process as dictated by the United States Constitution.

    On with the revolution, Brandon! And don’t worry, you WON’T be alone. I can assure you of that.

    • This had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NDAA, for God’s sakes people if you want to fight evil get the facts strait. I am grateful Brandon Raub is once again a free man and I am appalled at his detention but anyone saying it had anything to do with the NDAA is both clueless and damaging to the liberty movement.

      In this time we must use great care as we correct injustices and be ACCURATE in how we fight this battle.

      • Sarge

        Your heart was in the right place 😉

      • John

        How do you know it had nothing to do with the NDAA? What do you base your comment on, because there’s plenty of people who feel it did?

        And if you read my first paragraph, I left open the possibility that is was NOT about the NDAA.

        • Because I can fricken read and understand law and don’t just draw these conclusions out of my ass because it seems like it might be true. The authority used to detain Brandon, right or wrong isn’t part of the NDAA, it is the same authority that would be used to detain anyone who made statements that could be construed to mean they were mentally defective and possibly a threat to themselves or others.

          Such authority isn’t new, it isn’t part of the damn NDAA and people spouting stupid shit like this hurt the cause of the movement. When someone’s dad or brother on the edge gets something like this and is on the edge of wake up and finds something so EASILY disproven it discredits the actual issue.

          What isn’t it enough that from what we can see anyway that nothing the man said was a direct threat or the statements of anyone who would be a danger to himself or others? Isn’t it enough that it is likely he was targeted more aggressively due to his recently released from service status? Why in the hell do people feel the need to start connecting dots with a magic marker they pull out of their ass?

          The NDAA is an issue, this is an issue but only the mind is linking the two. Simply put the authority to detain a person for statements which could be construed to show the person is mentally defective and a danger exists outside the NDAA. It has for far longer then the NDAA has existed, like well over 100 years. As for your first paragraphs leaving it open why even bring this shit up then. Please begin to think and please vet stuff before making statements, sending emails, etc.

          At this point I have stayed silent on my show about this issue because I still haven’t seen all the postings. If he was detained for his posting called “The Truth” likely I will have this man on my show and take great pleasure in helping him sue the shit out of the government for this. Though if there are other postings and one is something like, “we should all get guns and _______”, as much as I dislike the government I will have to state that their actions were justified.

          Too many times now we react and take someone’s side just because they appear to be on our side from a distance.

          Also don’t write off the possibility that the whole thing might be a psy op. It may have been done for no other reason then to intimidate people, they may have never intended to hold him long term, for all we know he might be in on it. Just think before you state shit as though it is factual, vet stories, get the facts before you go on a war path etc.

          Every time we have people on our side do stupid shit it hurts the movement. NDAA is another good example where as bad as it is people like Alex Jones have made it into what it is not. The Food Safety and Modernization Act is another, supposedly it “made gardens illegal”, etc.

          • Josh

            One might argue that another threat to the movement would be folks who are not civil to one another. If you’re going to reply to refute an existing reply, you should provide facts as well to support your case.

            We won’t know if the NDAA was used or planned to be used in this case until/unless paperwork is released or an official statement that would document that fact. Until then, it’s all speculation.

            These laws, policies, acts, and other charges are all tools in a big tool box. Law enforcement use any of them that they can for any particular purpose. I’m not saying that this is good or bad, it’s just the way it is.

          • John

            Thanks for your opinion on the NDAA as it relates to this case. Considering the fact that there’s a very thin line (or NO line) between detainment under the guise of the NDAA and that of your “garden variety” detainment for reasons of suspected mental defectiveness, etc., it’s understandable how any rational person could reach the conclusion that I and many others have reached (your “ability to fricken read and understand law” not withstanding). But your point of view is certainly something to keep in mind.

            It sounds to me as though you’re doing your own share of speculating in so far as this being a possible psy op, “…he might be in on it”, etc. If you don’t know all the facts, why even bother mentioning this? Does this not feed into the conspiracy mill and aid in the those who may rumor-monger? You’re not doing the movement any favors by speculating.

            And I don’t expect you will win many converts to your sight by posting such angry and aggressive rants. If anybody is on the war path, it is you. Take a good look at yourself before talking out of YOUR ass.

      • DreadMatt

        how is this not an act of NDAA? because they didn’t claim he was a terrorist suspect?

        • John

          Actually, according to a statement by an FBI agent to Brandon’s mother, he was accused of making a “terrorist threat.” And why else would FEDERAL agencies (Secret Service, FBI) be involvedhis detainment?

  • roger

    it seems he sue them for false imprisonment

  • Moira

    Thank God Brandon had people in his life, like his MOTHER, and those others who recorded his arrest. If they hadn’t been such a vocal force for him and engaged The Rutherford Institute who knows where he would be. I don’t think they (TPTB) expected the alternative media to pick up on this story and once that happened the gig was up. They will keep trying, testing the limits of what people are willing to sacrifice in the name of national security.

    ” Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither ”

    — Benjamin Franklin

    • The Rule of Law was upheld. Now the psychopaths who carried out this travesty of Justice must be charged with civil and criminal misconduct to exposed their trampling the Constitution and their crimes against the people. In a civil case the Sky is the limit but ultimately it would be other patriots and the sheeple who foot the bill.

      I must say, for what little I know about the incident it’s an inspiration that throughout you clearly communicated the principles of our Constitutional Republic and the eminent threat we all face.

      Thank you for your service to the people of our nation and your understanding of what is required of all citizens of this grand experiment. To Brandon: Semper fidelis.

      “A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.” – Edward R. Murrow

      “To the Psychopaths controlling the levers, costs are of no concern. War and a decimation of humanity can be carried forward simply by creating the means out of thin air. And the coup de grâce; they charge us interest for our consent.” – Inflection Point:

      http://notionalvalue.blogspot.com/

  • American Citizens need all the help they can get in these troubled times. It is good to know that the Judge had his Head screwed-on. I hope there are many more like Him.

  • Vulcan Raven

    Epic

  • Rick Magee

    I hpe to God that he sues the living crap out of all those involved and have them compelled to identify Who ordered his “Arrest”! Otherwise this violation of Our Rights will continue. ~Rick Magee, FL

  • Rick Magee

    My sincere gratitude to the Oath Keepers, The Rutherford Institute and the many other Patriotic Organizations that came to this Marine’s Defense. Otherwise he would just disappear into the quagmire of forgotten souls. God Bless you All! ~Rick Magee, FL

  • Matt Campbell

    You got this guy slated for a SSG meeting yet, Chris?

  • Darryl

    Its ironic that he states on FB that he will lead a revolution because his story HAS awoken people to the tyranny of the terrorism laws and overreaching of our federal government. Lots of mainstream press picked up on this story and actually started to scare some mainstream people about the potentail of being labeled a terrorist just for posting your feelings on the internet. Random musings about a bad day can land you in jail even if you talk in jest on the internet. It is scary stuff can I think touched a nerve on some websites.

  • Big Country

    Great news!

    These days it is rare to see a wrong done by TPTB, corrected by a judge.

  • Patty Hankins

    Thank you Chris for posting the original story, thank you to Oathkeepers and the Rutherford Institute, and to everyone who posted and read the stories and signed the petition. Thank you to everyone who has commented. It is when we are silent and do nothing that these injustices occur and spread.

    As for the NDAA – as soon as the word “terrorist” is used, the indefinite detention sections of the NDAA are in play. After he was hauled away, an FBI agent called Mr. Raub’s Mom and told her that his Facebook posts had “terrorist” content. It is widely accepted that the NDAA codifies and expands the grey areas introduced by the Patriot Act and War Powers Authorization Act of 2001 and the Military Commissions Act of 2006. On paper we have lost our rights, and either the intelligence community or the military can indefinitely detain us without charges or due process. Also on paper we have our rights – in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. So what is happening now, is the government is seeing how far they can go, if the people will defend their own rights and each other’s rights, or just let the fedgov present us with a fait accompli every time it wishes to “disappear” someone.

    Most of all, thank you to Brandon Raub for being a true patriot and a man of courage.

  • Thegallowsjudge

    What a fantastic story. Thank God a righteous judge [Circuit Judge W. Allan Sharrett who carried out his oath of faithfulness to the Constitution] completely rejected the illegal actions of the Secret Service, FBI and local Chesterfield, VA police, in holding an innocent man for merely expressing his political views. I hope the offices of the Secret Service, FBI and the local police are bombarded with calls demanding the firing of all those involved. The original magistrate [Special Justice Walter Douglas Stokes] who affirmed the 30 day psychiatric detention of Brandon is no better that the judges who upheld all of the evil orders of Hitler, Stalin or Mao, to arrest and silence dissent. Special Justice Walters – this is what awaits you and all judges like you who violate and trample our Liberty and our Constitution:
    “1 Destruction is certain for the unjust judges, for those who issue unfair laws. 2 They deprive the poor, the widows, and the orphans of justice. Yes, they rob widows and fatherless children! 3 What will you do when I send desolation upon you from a distant land? To whom will you turn for help? Where will your treasures be safe? 4 I will not help you. You will stumble along as prisoners or lie among the dead. But even then the LORD’s anger will not be satisfied. His fist is still poised to strike.” Isaiah 10:1-4 in the New Living Translation.

  • james malone

    I think we have judges that will rule this wa as long as the people stand behind them. They know this

  • Damian Orihuela

    First and foremost, I thank God that we still have a judge (hopefully more) that sticks to what is right and is not intimidated by the government goons. Now Bandon Raub (a patriot hero) took a great chance by allowing these bastard to take him. What I mean by that is that there is NO WAY he could have known that he would have been EVER released. The govsters made some mistakes up front that they couldn’t retract and ended up having to release him, but they learn fast! As we read these comments they are busy taking notes and formulating new SOP’s to disseminate throughout their departments to cover what they have learned from this one. I don’t know that I would be willing to take that chance, will you?

  • Lisa Farkass

    Snitches get stitches…

  • Purple Mom

    NDAA was passed with the intention of using it as justification to do just this type of thing to Americans. Read the executive orders on the white house website for the past year and you’ll see where we are headed. I admire and respect those who stood up for Brandon.

  • SilverFox

    Brandon, I know you will eventually read our posts here and on other sites. I just want to say thank you for your service to this great nation. I am sorry for what you had to endure both on the field of battle with foreign enemy’s and at home with domestic enemy’s. You are deserving of the highest praise. I now wish the grateful citizens of the USA had a medal of honor to award you, you deserve it. May you have nothing but success in all your future endeavors.

    To the Raub family, thank you! You have endured a great deal and I know it was on behalf of all the patriots of this great nation. We felt your pain during this ordeal and we know it was thousands of times worse for you. Good luck and god bless you and all of your loved ones.

  • A victory for the people. Keep bringin’ the heat everyone!

  • James Tetreault

    Wonderful news. Good for Brandon.

  • I agree with John that this totally felt and smelled like NDAA. Not to say either way that it was or wasn’t because there is no proof and I highly doubt we will ever see documentation now. The point is it seems they wanted to make an example out of Brandon and that example is “don’t question or speak bad about your government or you may be next.” And for ModernSurvival, I don’t believe in any way that John or Alex Jones are “damaging the Liberty Movement” he was simply calling it like he sees it and there are many others who have the same feeling. While I respect you as a fellow activist and you have a great site, shit talking and name calling to other Liberty lovers because you think your opinion is the right one is damaging the movement. We are all supposed to be on the same side here.

  • sb

    Are there any lawyers out there? Can you tell me if this would work?

    1. Put on a suit.
    2. Go into a Federal Reserve Bank with $1 Silver Dollar and $500 Federal Reserve notes.
    3. Demand that the Federal Reserve exchange the notes (their liabilities/credit) for 500 real Silver dollars.
    4. If they refuse, ask if their Federal Reserve notes are still valid.
    5. Explain that “note” means promissory note, debt, credit, or liability.
    6. If they refuse ask them if the notes are no longer valid or counterfeit.
    7. Explain that the Constitution defines the US Dollar as .715 ounces of Silver.
    8. If they still refuse follow up with a certified letter documenting what happened and demanding that they exchange the Federal Reserve Notes for US Silver dollars.
    9. If they still refuse, take them to small claims court and argue your case, and explain to the judge that the Federal Reserve is a private bank that has been debasing the dollar since 1913.

    Maybe the Federal Reserve will just pay you $5,000 to go away

  • Jose Linares

    Good for him.

    It is a lonely road, but soon more people will come to know the miserable side of this Usurious system.

    Many people cannot pay their bills.

    There are no entities creating enough credit to salvage the system in its present form.

    Municipal courts are now extortion mills where the prosecutors get to play let make a deal on how much you can agree to be extorted to keep playing in their system.

    The system is on autopilot to self destruct, no one with a vested interest in the present system will move a finger to try to correct the system since it would be suicidal, and if staying the course it is also suicidal. catch-22.

    What can be done?

    Those that are victims of the present system must learn to assert their rights.

    Go to court and plead your case to win time.

    THE LAW DOES NOT REQUIRE IMPOSSIBILITIES!

    If you took a mortgage out in fractional reserve banking system, it goes to the fundamental fact that those so called lenders know certain number of people must default. It is expected! It would be inequitable for a “lender” to take your property for a default in which he was instrumental in causing.

    Plead, plead, and plead so more. Grind the system to a halt. That should give enough time for the alternatives to kick in.

    CENTRAL BANKS ARE OBSOLETE. THEY KNOW IT.

    CASHLESS SYSTEMS ARE THEIR ACHILLES HEAL.

    ALL YOU NEED IS A TRUSTED BOOKKEEPER AND A UNIT OF ACCOUNT, BOOM! NEW MONETARY SYSTEM.

    GOLD AND SILVER HOARD CAN SERVE AS PERFORMANCE BONDS FOR ANY NEW MONETARY SYSTEM.

  • Blah Blah

    what is sad is that just in one hearing on Monday, he was involuntarily held for 30 days….this does not seem legal without a trial…the first hearing is usually a probable cause hearing just to determine if he should be held but he has a right to a trial within so many days of that probable cause hearing…usually 14 days….what kind of scarey mental health system do they have there…you don’t take someones rights away that easily…it should be harder and where was the evidence…none as far as I could see….he did not threaten anyone or himself….the judge in my opinion was Not doing his job…properly

  • Benjamin

    I live in a small country called South Africa where I have been following everything that is transpiring in the USA as well as this case. Well done
    Brandon! I would just like everybody to know that there are MANY people
    around the globe who are like minded and all are with you people in mind
    and spirit. I belong to a group called The New Economic Rights Alliance
    who have served papers on some of our major banks as well as our Minister
    of Finance and last but not least our Reserve Bank (who is much like your Fed
    Reserve Bank) for various charges.This is their website http://www.newera.org.za/
    The time has definitely come for the people to stand together and fight for our
    rights and freedom from tyrany!!

  • thankful

    Thank God there were people speaking in support of this kid, his Mom and Adam Kokesh and many others that gave it the media attention it deserved. God only knows that if everyone came out and said “I hope he finally gets the help he needs.” the poor kid would be being force-fed psychotropics and stuck in the hole for another 20 days, and possibly worse.

    Anyone else privy to the fact that this same thing happened to 20 other people in the last month in THIS COUNTY ALONE (there are a lot of counties in VA folks)

    yup, thank the good Lord not all just got scared and rationalized that the safe thing to do would be to just point out his facebook posts and publicly state that they look like the ramblings of a kid losing his grip in this stage or that, else their own posts might be scrutinized and they be next.

    Yup, thanks, Adam K you got balls

  • Jon

    I got rid of my “Facebook” account some time ago. Get rid of your Gov. Spy ridden forum account!

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