Want To Know What it Will Be Like To Have Silver After the Dollar Dies?

17 comments to Want To Know What it Will Be Like To Have Silver After the Dollar Dies?

  • Big Country

    What a day that would be!

  • urban sling-bow

    I appreciate the humour, but lets be realistic.

    My take is that after the Dollar (and Euro and UK Pound) heads south for the winter, anyone with any substantial stack will have to be either connected like a mafioso or hold some rank as part of a militia or well armed gang to have any hope of holding onto it.

    I have seen first hand what people will do for a handful of change when they are desperate. Just a handful of eagles, britannias, maples, or whatever getting ‘spent’ in public is going to make you stand out like a search light in the dark.

    In a currency crisis such as the one the Argentinians went through, or a sociatal collapse such as the one the Bosnians went through, you had either have had to have already got the hell out, ‘gone grey’, or got yourself connected.

    Sorry to bring people back down, but ‘spending’ silver after the collapse, and even during the transition to a new currency, is going to be risky.

    • Silver Shield

      I should have said, after the Anger Phase.

      I do like how everyone thinks it will be gangster urban warfare.

      The smart ones will be far away from any urban areas with people who provide real value and fight for real liberty.

      It will not be equally bad, all at once, all over the earth.

      The fires will burn out and real men will build again.

      I will be with them.

      • urban sling-bow

        >Silver Shield,

        I commend your efforts and your optimism.

        Your comment, “It will not be equally bad, all at once, all over the earth.
        The fires will burn out and real men will build again”, deserves to be repeated.

        I do you hope you are correct.

        I also hope that we can look back on the actions we are taking now, and are yet to take in the coming months and years, with pride and not shame (or regret).

        However this system eventually dies – fast/slow, clean/dirty, peacefully/violently – when it does die and fall over it is going to be the start of a very difficult period for many.

        I wish you the very best for the future – your efforts in reaching out to people around the world are greatly appreciated.

  • Jason Mcbride

    Roflmao. I love it. I really needed that today. Great pick shield

  • Jason Mcbride

    Hey urban just carry around a 3 r 4 dimes in s sack and a ak you will be ok 😉

  • Steve Duby

    While so obviously tongue and cheek (thanks for the amusement), it does raise the question of what comparatively little “amount” of physical wealth can be transferred into an immense amount of material goods and services. I liken it to the possibility of air travel costing an ounce of silver an hour in a future scenario. Even for those of us with short stacks, that can mean the difference between life and death in certain areas under civil unrest. But for the most part, yes, during the Anger Phase, the silver is going to have to stay out of circulation. During that time, I really don’t see anything working aside from quid pro quo: a straight-up barter economy where the true life essentials (lower rungs of Maslow’s hierarchy) will be the medium of exchange, and even a stockpiled abundance of those in urban or suburban areas is going to draw a target. Better to just go dark, hope your preps tide you over, and resurface with new possibilities after society takes out its overdue rage. When that happens, I hope to possibly meet some of you on the other side, and work to build a better paradigm. In the meantime…

    Keep on having fun.

  • David Richardson

    During an anger or severe shortage phase one should probably only carry around pre-1982 pennies [currently about 3 cents worth of copper], nickels [currently about 7 cents worth of copper-nickel alloy, and a few pre-1965 dimes.

    In a hyper inflationary decline of the dollar, copper, nickel, titanium, and even lead gain purchasing power.

    P.S. During such a time do not barter ammunition or alcohol with someone you don’t know very well! They will kill you with the ammunition for your stash of alcohol!!

    Chris mentions in a video what people will be if there is sudden severe shortage of antidepressants [SSRI’s]. Imaging what much larger numbers of consumers would be like with a sudden severe shortage of alcohol or cigarettes.

  • Rnjsfi49

    Hi Chris,

    Thanks for this post and everything you do. I have learned so much from your work. I’m hoping that you or anyone else on this thread can help me out because I am totally bewildered and perplexed about this issue. If silver is going to be unobtainable and maybe extinct after the collapse, why in the world would anyone spend it for anything other than the transfer of wealth or in exchange for another cash producing asset like real estate? If everyone is going to become broke and destitute, it seems like many will use some common sense and use the next best thing for daily essentials or small purchases. The coinage act includes copper pennies, not just gold and silver. In addition, I heard somewhere that the historical copper/silver ratio was 60/1 which is way off right now. If there is a collapse, I would think that real tangible assets would be hoarded. Copper could be used for day to day purchases when pure bartering for goods won’t be sufficient. If the copper/silver ratio goes back to 60/1, and silver/gold ratio goes back to 20/1, I would think that 2 rolls of copper pennies would give you the same purchasing power of 1 oz of silver.

    Why are copper pennies totally dismissed? Copper has been used for money for thousands of years also. Can someone help me out? What gives?????

    • Shane Thomasson

      It is a good idea for each individual to do their own investigation on what metal coinage to buy. Different people have different budgets and different needs. If you are interested in cost effecitive ways to obtain copper coinage, consider the pre 1983 pennies. Also modern nickels that are in circulation are a way to get more than five cents worth of copper at a 5 cent purchase. Nickel stackers are a part of the stacking community. It would just be for smaller purchases than the same amount of silver.

  • David Richardson

    Rnjsfi49,

    As someone who ha a degree in geology I can assure you silver will not become extinct; just much more rare and expensive to mine and refine. Venture capital is right now going into exploration of valleys around deep-sea volcanic vents, where mother earth has been spewing out element rich solids & gases [like silver sulfide] for millennium. And recovered samples are high in metals including copper, silver, and gold. The question is how much technology has to be developed and what will it cost to recover in a cost-effective manner. What is becoming extinct is the high-grade ores at a shallow depth.

    I assure you there are many that are not ignoring copper, and later it will cost a lot more to buy in any of today’s fiat currencies. It is just that copper is bulky and heavy for its’ current buying power. But there are people stockpiling copper pennies and copper in other forms, like .999 bullion bars.

    • Silver Shield

      The USGS said that at the current consumption rate that silver would become extinct by 2020 but they went on to say that given a much higher price to allocate more resources in finding and recycling more but more importantly wiser use would make silver available much longer.

  • David Richardson

    I read a written statement from a USGS spokesperson [not the highest level spokesperson of the USGS] that made the comment all currently known reserves would be gone by 2020 at current consumption rates–but that more would be found. And there are massive deposits in the oceans [see my post above] that were not counted as known reserves.

    While some may make bad investments in mining operations due to reasons ranging from a poorly run operations to operations in countries that may nationalize mines, more silver is being discovered, which is why silver mining companies can attract some capital from savvy investors.

    I worked briefly for the USGS. If I have time I will get the opinion of their most knowledgeable expert on the subject. But it doesn’t really matter. The low hanging fruit on land has mostly been discovered with the exception of a few more probable finds in South America and/or inhospitable locations, weather, altitudes, or political climates. The cost of finding-to-refining .999 will rise like a logarithmic graph [similar to the U.S, debt graph over the last 15 years or so].

  • Denny B.

    I thought that the deeper you dug for silver the quantities diminished.Any accuracy to that statement.How many thousand feet down has gold been mined in South Africa? I don’t recall any deep silver mines.

    • Silver Shield

      I have heard this as well and I believe that is why the natural ratio of gold to silver coming out of the ground has decreased from 1:16 to 1:9.

      Most silver mines are close to the surface and degrade further down.

  • Denny B.

    Which is one more reason to stack silver.

  • Calvin Niese

    Good Stuff guys.
    just a heads up about the awakening with young folks, I go to college at a community college and I actually had a random guy ask me today if I knew about Neil Armstrong, which then got into the staged moon landings from way back wheren!

    So I think the Generation-X is for the most part open minded and I can name a handful of friends who are already in the bargaining and anger stages of the awakening.
    Have faith in our generation, we got more thinkers and problem solvers then you think!
    Peace and let the party roll on!

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