I am questioning why “inside job” was drilled into our head when it is obvious to me “outside job” nations had a lot more to benefit from America spilling its treasure and blood in the middle east.
I tend to agree with the “inside job” theory being a bit tin foil hat. I think that if Watergate breakin could not be covered up then how do you cover up high- jacking planes and flying them into buildings. More than likely it was the story as it stands but it was allowed to happen. Could have been stopped but was not.
1. I am not certain that what’s being asserted here is that it wasn’t an Inside Job – despite the title. After all, the proposition that it was not an Inside Job is in direct contradiction with the information presented in parts 2-4 of the Decade of Denial and Deception series. (Which is EXCELLENT, BTW. It provides an accessible, concise introduction to the concepts DTOMSOLA has been presenting and integrates an analysis (including data) of the events of 911 into that context.) It looks to me like what Chris was emphasizing was that going about trumpeting (literally) that it was an Inside Job, per se, may alienate observers, and that it would be more productive to encourage observers to wake up and question things.
I think the point about trumpeting is valid; though honestly, I have a certain amount of sympathy for the concept. 911 appears to me to have constituted the greatest betrayal of the American People since Pearl Harbor. That’s worth trumpeting about. The question is: Is something worth trumpeting about worthy of a means of communication/education that is more effective than mere “trumpeting.”
2. Now, if Chris really is maintaining that it wasn’t an Inside Job (again unlikely given the information he put together so excellently in “A DDD”), but that it was a False Flag, then I think we are looking at an inadvertently created false dichotomy here. There is nothing inconsistent with 911 being described as both an Inside Job AND a False Flag. Indeed, that’s what it was: A False Flag perpetrated by Insiders… The term False Flag describes what it was. The term Inside Job tells us (imprecisely) who did it. The terms describe two independent aspects of the event.
That I, personally, find the fact of it having been an Inside Job more disturbing than that fact that it was a False Flag is a separate issue. I do, however, therefore tend to emphasize the IJ aspect of it since this translates into betrayal and treason by the perpetrators. I am not being pedantic here. Note that many of the analysts who have examined Pearl Harbor and concluded that FDR set us up (technically a betrayal), mitigate the seriousness of the crime by justifying his policy and intent – to jolt an isolationist American Public into a martial attitude toward the Axis. One can imagine the perpetrators of 911 using much the same thinking…
The USS Liberty Incident is another good example. What do you find more infuriating about it – the betrayal of the crew by LBJ and McNamara, or the actual policy aim it was intended to accomplish (there is debate over that so I am not describing it here)?
3. As for the tin hat reference, it’s aluminum foil, not tin foil. This sort of imprecision can get one in trouble when examining complex events. I recommend you go back and actually watch the entire 4 part “A DDD” presentation or go to the ae911truth website and watch one of their videos. I don’t think it’s possible at this point to observe these and conclude anything other than the facts that it was an inside job and a false flag conveying benefits to enemies of the polity, both domestic and foreign.
“Inside Job” was/is a premature, false accusation. The events on 9/11/2001 had many colluding actors with many motives, financial, tyrannical, and psychological, just to name a few. Enemies, both foreign and domestic.
Depends on your defination of “inside” job. Now if we say that this was an act that was organized and financed by the Freemason society which owns and instructs the government of the United States then yes it was an inside job. The actions of planting the thermite/ C4 explosives was done by the Israeles. The hijacking and plane missions carried out by the likes of some Islamic group. The non action of the United states military jets was carried out by our Vice President in control of Norad at the exact time of the disaster. All instuments of the Rothchild and Bildeberg empires.
Foolish speculation. Inside job with outside help. Al-Queda could not have blow up building 7 or the twin towers. In fact, there were NO muslin names as passengers listed on the 4 planes and Mohammed Atta was an imposter. The real mohammed Atta is still alive
Anyone who thinks the two towers as well as building 7 fell like they did wo help from ppl in this country then they are idiots and get what they deserve. There wasnt even a plane found in Shanksville.. I give up. Americans are stupid and will pay the price for their enduring stupidity and inability to use common sense
So many, if ot all false flags have their traces to that particular outside country. But any reference to that connection is rejected with the Holocuast trick, as described here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DKeLLlaws8
How convenient to have this point. So it’s worth while to keep it present in everyone’s mind, that’s why we still have all the Antinazi WWII Holocoast stories almost daily on TV, to always remind us of it, 70 years later.
What would happen, if normal people would start to ask questions about the sixmillioncyanide-”everlasting truth”. What if people would discover that there’s more myth than truth behind it? Some Elite people would lose their best distraction ever from what’s really going on, with all those false flags, wars, debt & death they spread all over the world.
Norman Filkenstein´s parents survived camps also, yet he wrote The Holocaust Industry. What we are talking here is how long lasting and effective a well funded propaganda can be.
Dear Old-Shekel, I didn’t want to hurt or offend anyone. If I did, I’m sorry.
But. It must be allowed to ask questions, almost 70 years after those happenings. But: that isn’t allowed. In many European countries, people literally go to jail for years, for nothing but asking questions about the holocaust. strange, isn’t it.
In this video, it is asked: Why the Germans bothered to tattoo the Jews for identification, if the Germans allegedly just wanted to kill all of them as fast as they could? Or were those camps just work camps? (with libraries, swimming pools, hospitals?) Eisenhower-Death-Camp.wmv
-Did you know, that the German concentration camps were initially established in tight coordination between the German authorities and Zionist organizations? look up the Haavara Agreement from 1933.
-Did you know that “Judea” declared war on Germany in 1933? (right after Hitler founded the non-Rothschild German central bank). That meant, the the Jews all over the world were officially ready to use all their power and influence against Germany (this led to WWII against Germany). Read more in Benjamin Freedmans very interesting speech: http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Benjamin.H.Freedman/1974.Washington.D.C.speech.html
Yes there were camps, (like the US had camps for German and Japanese citizens in the US). But were there also intentional killings? millionfold?
For further info, watch this video http://archive.org/details/TheTruthAboutTheHolocaust
or browse through the vho .org database, first read the introduction.
You won’t find neo-nazis there, but scientists and other respectable publicists.
It’s very hard and painful to go through these researches, because the taboo is very strong. But the search for truth isn’t always convenient, and more than once it carried me to facts I didn’t ever want to know. But we are here to question everything, aren’t we?
Having an evil of evils comes in very handy and makes things easier. You are labeled anti-semitic, and that´s it. End of the debate, no need to answer your questions. However, the bad Germans story is getting worn out. One day we should talk about the A-bombs, the hundreds of tonnes of bombs thrown in N. Korea, the G. of Tonkin, the agent orange, the Tuskegee syphilis experiment, the unbelievable M. Albright (utube.com/watch?v=FbIX1CP9qr4), just to name a few. Even if the victor´s story doesn´t like the truth.
Of course you are allowed to ask what happend ,
I met tens of holocaust and ww2 survivors and I asked them all the questions .
-Why the germans tattooed the jews ?
Why the farmer put marks on his cattle ?
It was easier to control the masses , like a biometric ID .
The productive were sent to work and the non productive to death .
FEMA – death camp or work camp ?
Sometimes death is better than slavery , isn’t it ?
I never heard about facilities in the camps but I will ask just to make sure .
I started reading Benjamin Freeman’s speech and stopped beacuse I found too much common denominator to the protocols of the elders of zion in his arguments.
Some of the history facts are totally untrue .
Intentional killings ?
My grandma’s brother says he will never forget the stoves and the smell of the soot .
I’m not trying to convience you but it is frustrating when on one side I see old folks with tears and scars telling their stories and on the other side people who know “truth” say nothing happend .
Personally, I think, the jews in the concentration camps, and the brutally defeated Germans were both victims of the Zionists, who were and still are a part of the same Powers That Be, whom we are talking about on this site.
The jewish residential population in Germany was well integrated until 1933, they were well situated and broadly accepted. The German anti-semitism back then targeted the financial high establishment, which was and still is mostly jewish, and the bolshewist Elite, who permanently sent their agitators and saboteurs, and tried to take over the power in Germany since World War I. As we know today, the Bolshewist Elite indeed was mostly Jewish and was also financed directly through the Wall Street Banking Elite. Until 1933, the German anti-semitism never meant the normal Jews, many of them fought for Germany in WWI, and many were German patriots and actually thought of themselves more as Germans than as jews.
Until 1933, when “Judea”, the Zonist Elite, declared war on Germany with all means, and therefore sowed doubts among the Germans about the reliability of the normal German Jews.
The Zionist Elite had two plans with the German Jews:
1.) the Zionists wanted them as population for their Palestine project, but of course the normal German Jews didn’t want to leave their established life behind to emigrate to a piece of desert full of hostile Arabs. Therefore the Zionists had to alienate them from the Germans and detach them from their normal lives. That was the purpose of agreements like the Haavara agreement, and it was the beginning of concentrating the jews in camps with the purpose of Emigration.
2.)The Zionists also wanted to use the normal German Jews to victimize them, in order to awake the world to Jewish suffering and to appeal for sympathy for the Palestine plans. So, in their media, they started to exaggerate the reports of brutality and suffering of the Jews under Hiter.
Old Shekel, there are the eye witness reports on one hand. On the other hand, there are scientific researches about the sites where those things supposedly happened – and these two things don’t always fit together. That’s the reason for further questions.
For example, there were eye witness reports about gas chambers in camps within the German borders. But today, it is state of the official historic research, that within the German borders, there weren’t any gas chambers. Still there are eye witness reports about gas chambers and mass killings in Polish camps, like Auschwitz. Auschwitz was a HUGE industrial site with several concentration camps around it, for thousands of prisoners to work in those factories. It had the population of a middle sized city, and of course some people died there, from illnesses, disease or accidents. In Auschwitz, there were crematories to cremate about a dozen bodies a day. From size and number it was simply impossible to cremate thousands there daily. Also, there are aerial pictures of Auschwitz from the time in question without any smoke clouds, anywhere. There were cyanide gas chambers to disinfect clothes from lice, which spread serious diseases. But it was impossible to use these special little gas tight rooms for people, let alone for millions.
Cyanide is highly poisonous. After killing people with it, one would have to wait days, until the doors could be opened, but still the helpers should wear astronaut like suits, and couldn’t tear the bodies out with bare hands, like it has been described. Without special equipment (which hasn’t been described), they would have died themselves from touching the bodies or breathing the air coming out of the room. With always waiting days, it wouldn’t have been possible to kill these high numbers of people. Cyanide rapidly diffuses into brick walls, colours them blue, and is traceable after decades. In the rooms, which are presented as gas chambers today, cyanide is not detectable today, on the contrary of the small delousing rooms. The supposed gas chambers are also not gas tight, and so the gas would have poured out and would have killed passersby and staff. Further the openings in the ceiling to fill in the cyanide have been inserted verifiably after the war.
There is also no certainty about Germans killing huge numbers of jews with other methods. Many people in the camps died from hunger and diseases after the supply broke down due to the allies, who were bombing all bigger German cities, but there is no convincing clue or evidence about mass killing orders or actions. I don’t know where your relatives were, and I don’t doubt their reports, I’m sure they went through hardships. But in general, from the contradictions I mentioned, there are a lot of questions left about methods and numbers.
I want to emphasize, that I differ thoroughly between normal citizen Jews and the Zionist part of the Elite which had the power then, and still has it now. They misused their fellow Jews instead of helping them. And they tore Germany down with horrible cruelty. Although the Germans didn’t start the war, but defended themselves, although there has to be further research about what they actually did to the Jews (or disabled persons or gypsies, or gays or socialists) and what of it was black propaganda, and although there are not many verified incidences of war crimes which the Germans committed. On the contrary to the allies, who acted with tremendous cruelty in many incidences.
This is why I think, the Elite of today hides behind their fabricated victor’s history of the “monstrous Germans”. And that’s why they don’t allow questions. in many European countries people have to go to jail for asking questions about this specific subject. In the US, the Zionists’ helpers are very fast with anti-smitism accusations and with the Holocst trick which I quoted above, to stop discussions like this.
In the links I provided above, there is material about any aspect I mentioned here. Benjamin Freedman was a Jewish top insider of the Zionist Elite, who later turned away from them and started to reveal much of what was going on behind the scenes of the World Wars.
Until today, I think, the Zionists misuse the normal Jews, as the Zionists hide their actions behind the anti-Semitism-accusation. When people start to realize this trick, they will be mad about all Jews – because the normal Jews allowed the anti-semitism trick (-> divide and conquer). There are quite many orthodox Jews, who are rejecting loudly that Zionism has to do with orthodox Judaism. There should be much more Jews who say the same. Because the anti-semitism trick endangers and exposes them very much. Same with the population of Israel, who are in danger of bitter vengeance by all the Arab neigbours because of the actions of their elite – who hide their actions behind the alleged interests of Israel’s population.
Normal people want to live in peace, like the Jews in Germany. It were the Zionists who didn’t let them.
I insist to believe the eye witness more than articles .
You can reject the official numbers and have you own way of looking ,
one thing that disturbed me in you theory is the “innocent” germans , beacuse if you say it is the zionists responsible for the holocaust/ww2 it makes the germans naive and Hitler a good guy .
The whole nazi agenda was a race based , do you agree with it ?
You have to read Hitler’s book “Mein Kampf” and here are quotes :
- “The Jew has always been a people with definite racial characteristics and never a religion.”
- “by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”
Read more here : http://www.mosaisk.com/auschwitz/Adolf-Hitler-about-the-Jews.php
Someone killed the jewish people (again!) so it is not about who killed this time .
These people were killed beacuse of their faith , their religion .
There are many jewish leaders who speak about what happend and what was the zionists part in the nazi killing machine . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjnoWOzZg_g
If the zionists are the people who responsible for the holocaust beacuse they wanted their Palstine project to progress ,
Why would El Husseini cooperated with the nazis ?
He didn’t want the jews to return Israel and always rejected any talks with the jews .
El Husseni wanted the nazi to achieve their goals and got Hitler’s promise to “finish what started” when he will arrive with his army to the middle east …
(A famous story is when England divided the country , Tel Aviv was for the jews and Jaffa which is a southern suburb of Tel aviv was suppose to be an enclave for the palestinians beacuse this part of the city dosn’t have continuity with what was suppose to be the palestinian state .
The jews agreed :Tel Aviv for the jews , Jaffa for the arabs .
The arabs agreed too but their leader , El Husseini said : “no agreements with the jews , fight till the death” .
The arabs closed the harbour of jaffa and snipers shot from Hassan Beck mosque rooftop at jews who came to the big market between Tel Aviv and Jaffa(the mosque is still exist)
The underground organization fought them and conquerd Jaffa …
My respect for going into this dicussion. I know how irritating it can be.
About the quotes from “Mein Kampf”: Hitler diputed the fact, that throughout history, there were many Jews in influential positions – especially often there, where power and particularly the financial power instrument of usury were misused, and he considered how the Jewish beliefs (e.g. the Talmud passages about the worthless Goyim) could promote this.
Even if one totally disagrees with all Mein Kampf quotes – they weren’t a base for intentionally killing Jews. This is just an assumption from today’s perspective, as we “know” that so many Jews have been killed intentionally by the Nazis. But in fact, you won’t find any appeal for killing Jews in the book, neither any call for euthanasia.
As said, the combat term anti-Semitism hides the negative aspects and actions of the Jewish elite in the past and present. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think that all Jews are malevolent (like I said before), as well as I don’t think, that the high Elite is only Jewish. But I think it’s time to take a closer look.
Even the race aspect of the Nazi agenda isn’t as clear as we would think from our school knowledge. The Nazis passed their race laws (prohibition of marriage between Germans and Jews etc.), AFTER these laws have been discussed and coordinated with leading Jewish organizations. The background for this was, that these Jewish organizations wanted to keep the Jewish race clean. In fact, these laws were one of the action of the Jewish organizations to alienate Jews from Germans, and to draw back the former assimilation and integration.
About the eye witness reports: in many instances, eye witness reports stand in direct contradiction with scientificially researchable facts. The huge gas chambers and crematories in Auschwitz to kill millions: There is no factual hint or residue, that they existed. In fact, there are no hints for these facilities in any of the former camps in Eastern Europe (meanwhile it is officially accepted, that they didn’t exist in camps within the German borders). If there would exist any fact to clear up the contradictions and to falsify the doubts about a number of eye witness reports, why don’t the historians go into a sober dispute with the alleged “deniers”, and present the facts to prove that these reports of industrial mass killings are right, and the doubts are wrong? This scientific debate NEVER happened, not once. Those who doubt the official version and dare to talk about the contradictions were always attacked aggessively, withdrawn from their economic existence or sent to jail.
Also, there are no scientific hints for any intentional mass killings of civilians of any other kind (by work, by starvation, shooting or whatever), even less for mass killings out of racial reasons.
So again, I’m sure, the Jews went through bad hardships in Europe before and during WWII, but the reports of the millionfold killings are not verifiable. No outstanding, singular crime by the Nazis is traceable scientifically.
And you are right: To me, the Germans were victims of the same Rothschild hordes as the Vietnamese, the Yugoslavians, the Iraqis, the Afghans, the Libyans and all the others, who were blamed to have a “bad dictator” and then have their country stomped back into stone age. Besides of this, I’m more than ready to discuss the very interesting questions like if Germany really was a dictatorship back then, or collectivists or fascists. One fact is, that the average Germans were doing very well economically back then, after many years of misery, because Hitler founded a non-Rothschild central bank. And look what happened to countries who also had an non-Rothschild central bank, like Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya.
BTW: What you say about the Palestinian Arab leader is interesting. Probably the Palestinians were just grabbing for any help they could get, because they were struggling for their existence. In fact, the Nazis cooperated with the Zionists, but it’s not that they sympathized with the Zionists’ plans in Palestine. They saw the problems between Jews and Arabs clearly coming. Therefore, the Nazis preferred the plan to transfer the Jews to Madagascar, not to Palestine. It were the Zionists, who forced their emigration plans to Palestine.
I have to say that what people think about the Talmud is pretty wrong .
The word “Goyim” means “nations” , in the old testament , this word is written even on Abrham (“And I will make you a great nation/GOY) …
So it is not a negative word !
The story of exodus is a nice example : When the Israelites went out of Eygpt, Pharo’s soldiers chased them , Moses opend the red sea and they crossed , when the eygptians passed , the sea closed on them and they sank .
The angels wanted to sing and read poetry and god told them :
“My own creations are sinking and dying and you want to sing?!”
I’m writing this in order to show Judaism doesn’t speak about worthless human beings !
Even the “shabbat” (saturday) was given to the people BUT also to the animals,the sea,the plants and earth just to have a day off and rest .
The nazis had a race based agenda and Hitler named every race and appointed each race to have his job .
The arian race are the elites , then the slavic race who desreve to live but to be enslaved to the arians , and then other races who doesn’t have the right to exist .
In 1936 , Berlin , when Jesse Owens won a gold medal in the olympic games , Hitler left the stadium beacuse he was out of his mind when he saw a black athlete crashes his theory of arian race superiority .
Judaism is not a race . There are black jews , chinese jews and europian jews .
The “original” jews from biblical times were semites (like the arabs) .
Was Hitler that fool to mix between semitic jews and judaism ?
Jews always married each other and kept their community ,
I don’t think it is unusual thing , especially when people live as a minority on foreign country and from time to time had to flea .
Gypsys ,amish ,native americans , tribes in africa and many other are keeping their identity , culture and tradition .
As long they were loyal citizens , I don’t find any problem with it …
Here’s a nazi document that shows how the nazis checked how many jews are out there : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/WannseeList.jpg
11,000,000
Please take a look at this : http://forum.12p.co.il/index.php?showtopic=141680
And tell me if its not an intentional killing ?
I usually dont believe “science research” until I find out who stands behind and who paid for the research .
I insist to believe my grandma’s brother who saw it and doesnt have any intress to lie .
I can also tell you that for me all germans are responsible for what happend ,
they maybe were victims but once they found the way to tread others in order to save themselves – they became the agressors .
The explantion you wrote about the arabs “grabbing for any help” is not correct.
Other arab leaders never cooprated with the nazis (beacuse of race based agenda)
and even demonstrated when the heared their cousins are in trouble .
Be sure that the zionists maybe tried to establish Israel for their own needs but its out of their control long time ago (believe me) .
Excuse me if I have vocabulary/grammar mistakes …
PEACE
0ld-Shekel
Many normal patriots love their country “above all”, and their leaders like it when their people marry alike – like you said. But that doesn’t prove, that that kind of “racists” want to eliminte anyone, nor plan mass killings. The Nazi Alfred Rosenberg had indeed an elitist view on races, but also you won’t find murderous intentions against jews or other races in his papers. Additionaly, there are hints, that he had jewish ancestry himself.
Quote Old Shekel: “Was Hitler that fool to mix between semitic jews and judaism ?” in the quotes of your link above, Hitler described the jews not as a religion but as a nation, widespread over many countries. Don’t know if this is the most correct concept, but he wasn’t a naive in this point. Also what’s with the Khasarian jews. They are not Semites, are they?
For the Wannsee documents like the one in your link, there are serious hints that they were fabricated after the war, see this scientific analysis: http://vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndwannsee.html
Further, there’s no proof, that the term “final solution” from the Wannsee conference meant mass murder instead of emigration.
And generally, pictures can be impressing, but don’t carry their where, when and who. Also singular incidents (which surely took place, like in every war) can’t be extrapolated to intended and planned mass murder. There is no sustainable base for that the Germans intended, planned and realised mass murder.
…quote from Old Shekel “I can also tell you that for me all germans are responsible for what happend”. This disappoints me. In history, many jews were responsible for many murders, for poverty, mass starvation, wars, mass murder – like the mostly jewish Bolshevist elite (financed by High Elite Wall St. banks) was allegedly responsible for the starvation of 8 million Ukrainians (“Holodomor”), let alone the Gulags. And still (see this article, resp. video) many hints point to Israel, when talking about false flags, wars etc. But I wouldn’t hold “the” jews responsible. Not all jews from the time in question, and not all jews ever lived.
I don’t understand your concept of blaming all Germans.
Who pays for the revisionist scientific research and publications? Well, the researchers pay themselves. Many of them are just burning for the truth. Well, often they pay additionally with their existence, freedom, sometimes with their lives. Just look at the Jewish author Norman Finkelstein. After publishing his book “the Holocaust Industry”, he lost his scientific carreer. And he isn’t even challenging the Holocaust itself, but he only reckons up the billions which are earned and distributed by that special industry.
It would be fair to add to this seemingly endless debate (and yet so interesting) a look to what is going on today, for instance the black jews from Ethiopia, Eritrea, Sudan, and Zimbabwe migrated to Israel, called a `cancer´ by a Likud Party member: huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/24/miri-regev-sudan_n_1543079.html#slide=more228655
who later apologised: electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-lawmaker-miri-regev-heaven-forbid-we-compare-africans-human-beings
and youtube.com/watch?v=mbY6Y4DGNpM
Also the Interior Minister´s comments haaretz.com/news/national/interior-minister-un-should-take-care-of-migrant-workers-not-israel-1.431487
M.K Miri Regev talked about tens of thousands refugees from Sudan and Eritrea who arrived by foot all the way .
I fill very pity for these people and a week ago I helped one of them who slept on building entrance hall when there was a storm outside .
Anyway , many of these people are working immigrants and some are refugees .
They have a hard life and many of them sleep on the streets ,
the problem is when out of poverty crime comes and some of the residents are not feeling safe enough .
Israel is the only country in the area that is not killing this people .
(If an eygptian soldier find them , he is shooting without thinking twice) .
They are not jews but it doesn’t really matter ,
the sad thing is when other muslims kill their brothers just beacuse they come from across border .
Then maybe you false flaggers can explain how and why Silverstein acquired a multi-billion insurance policy, covering “terrorism”, on the property shortly before the attacks.
Thermite deposits, crews witnessed inside the building before the collapse, the demolition style implosion of the towers, the insurance policy. This is not just an inside job, but horribly staged, incredibly blatant, and intensely covered up. Furthermore we have one of the most epic displays of Chutzpah ever seen, with Mr. Silverstein discussing “pulling” the building in post-911 interviews.
Why can’t Jews just leave everyone else alone. Nations = races. No, you must impose yourself on others to the point of driving their ethnicity to the brink of extinction by pathologizing their right to control their own demographics. You call national survival “racism”, while promoting your own tribe at home and in the diaspora. Haaretz is not only read amongst Jews. These discussions about “rape by deception”, “Jewishness”, gentile intermarriage, Goyim/Shiksas (et cetera ad nauseum) are available for the whole world to see. Meanwhile outside of Israel, it’s “racism this”, “xenophobe that”, “anti-semite”, multiculturalism is a “human right”. BLAH BLAH BLAH, Shame on you fast-talking hypocrites.
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I tend to agree with the “inside job” theory being a bit tin foil hat. I think that if Watergate breakin could not be covered up then how do you cover up high- jacking planes and flying them into buildings. More than likely it was the story as it stands but it was allowed to happen. Could have been stopped but was not.
1. I am not certain that what’s being asserted here is that it wasn’t an Inside Job – despite the title. After all, the proposition that it was not an Inside Job is in direct contradiction with the information presented in parts 2-4 of the Decade of Denial and Deception series. (Which is EXCELLENT, BTW. It provides an accessible, concise introduction to the concepts DTOMSOLA has been presenting and integrates an analysis (including data) of the events of 911 into that context.) It looks to me like what Chris was emphasizing was that going about trumpeting (literally) that it was an Inside Job, per se, may alienate observers, and that it would be more productive to encourage observers to wake up and question things.
I think the point about trumpeting is valid; though honestly, I have a certain amount of sympathy for the concept. 911 appears to me to have constituted the greatest betrayal of the American People since Pearl Harbor. That’s worth trumpeting about. The question is: Is something worth trumpeting about worthy of a means of communication/education that is more effective than mere “trumpeting.”
2. Now, if Chris really is maintaining that it wasn’t an Inside Job (again unlikely given the information he put together so excellently in “A DDD”), but that it was a False Flag, then I think we are looking at an inadvertently created false dichotomy here. There is nothing inconsistent with 911 being described as both an Inside Job AND a False Flag. Indeed, that’s what it was: A False Flag perpetrated by Insiders… The term False Flag describes what it was. The term Inside Job tells us (imprecisely) who did it. The terms describe two independent aspects of the event.
That I, personally, find the fact of it having been an Inside Job more disturbing than that fact that it was a False Flag is a separate issue. I do, however, therefore tend to emphasize the IJ aspect of it since this translates into betrayal and treason by the perpetrators. I am not being pedantic here. Note that many of the analysts who have examined Pearl Harbor and concluded that FDR set us up (technically a betrayal), mitigate the seriousness of the crime by justifying his policy and intent – to jolt an isolationist American Public into a martial attitude toward the Axis. One can imagine the perpetrators of 911 using much the same thinking…
The USS Liberty Incident is another good example. What do you find more infuriating about it – the betrayal of the crew by LBJ and McNamara, or the actual policy aim it was intended to accomplish (there is debate over that so I am not describing it here)?
3. As for the tin hat reference, it’s aluminum foil, not tin foil. This sort of imprecision can get one in trouble when examining complex events. I recommend you go back and actually watch the entire 4 part “A DDD” presentation or go to the ae911truth website and watch one of their videos. I don’t think it’s possible at this point to observe these and conclude anything other than the facts that it was an inside job and a false flag conveying benefits to enemies of the polity, both domestic and foreign.
Regards to all.
“Inside Job” was/is a premature, false accusation. The events on 9/11/2001 had many colluding actors with many motives, financial, tyrannical, and psychological, just to name a few. Enemies, both foreign and domestic.
Link to Decade of Denial and Deception is bad.
I always ask “Cui Bobo?”. The beneficiaries were obviously on both the inside and the outside.
I meant Cui Bono:-)
Link works, however it requires log in. Not sure why that is….its a great article that should be viewed by all.
That footage of Nethanyahu on SHILL Maher’s show is some far out shit.
Depends on your defination of “inside” job. Now if we say that this was an act that was organized and financed by the Freemason society which owns and instructs the government of the United States then yes it was an inside job. The actions of planting the thermite/ C4 explosives was done by the Israeles. The hijacking and plane missions carried out by the likes of some Islamic group. The non action of the United states military jets was carried out by our Vice President in control of Norad at the exact time of the disaster. All instuments of the Rothchild and Bildeberg empires.
The twin towers , like the tower of babel , were destroyed beacuse of people’s pride in material .
Foolish speculation. Inside job with outside help. Al-Queda could not have blow up building 7 or the twin towers. In fact, there were NO muslin names as passengers listed on the 4 planes and Mohammed Atta was an imposter. The real mohammed Atta is still alive
Anyone who thinks the two towers as well as building 7 fell like they did wo help from ppl in this country then they are idiots and get what they deserve. There wasnt even a plane found in Shanksville.. I give up. Americans are stupid and will pay the price for their enduring stupidity and inability to use common sense
So many, if ot all false flags have their traces to that particular outside country. But any reference to that connection is rejected with the Holocuast trick, as described here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DKeLLlaws8
How convenient to have this point. So it’s worth while to keep it present in everyone’s mind, that’s why we still have all the Antinazi WWII Holocoast stories almost daily on TV, to always remind us of it, 70 years later.
What would happen, if normal people would start to ask questions about the sixmillioncyanide-”everlasting truth”. What if people would discover that there’s more myth than truth behind it? Some Elite people would lose their best distraction ever from what’s really going on, with all those false flags, wars, debt & death they spread all over the world.
FlyingCloud ,
If you had a grandmother with serial number tattooed on her hand ,
you wouldn’t need any TV to tell you what happend in the holocaust .
You people are afraid of confiscation ?
My grandmother will tell you how it feels .
She walked everyday 30 miles in the snow with no shoes or food .
Any prepper should learn from the real survivors of WW2 .
Norman Filkenstein´s parents survived camps also, yet he wrote The Holocaust Industry. What we are talking here is how long lasting and effective a well funded propaganda can be.
Dear Old-Shekel, I didn’t want to hurt or offend anyone. If I did, I’m sorry.
But. It must be allowed to ask questions, almost 70 years after those happenings. But: that isn’t allowed. In many European countries, people literally go to jail for years, for nothing but asking questions about the holocaust. strange, isn’t it.
In this video, it is asked: Why the Germans bothered to tattoo the Jews for identification, if the Germans allegedly just wanted to kill all of them as fast as they could? Or were those camps just work camps? (with libraries, swimming pools, hospitals?) Eisenhower-Death-Camp.wmv
-Did you know, that the German concentration camps were initially established in tight coordination between the German authorities and Zionist organizations? look up the Haavara Agreement from 1933.
-Did you know that “Judea” declared war on Germany in 1933? (right after Hitler founded the non-Rothschild German central bank). That meant, the the Jews all over the world were officially ready to use all their power and influence against Germany (this led to WWII against Germany). Read more in Benjamin Freedmans very interesting speech: http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Benjamin.H.Freedman/1974.Washington.D.C.speech.html
Yes there were camps, (like the US had camps for German and Japanese citizens in the US). But were there also intentional killings? millionfold?
For further info, watch this video http://archive.org/details/TheTruthAboutTheHolocaust
or browse through the vho .org database, first read the introduction.
You won’t find neo-nazis there, but scientists and other respectable publicists.
It’s very hard and painful to go through these researches, because the taboo is very strong. But the search for truth isn’t always convenient, and more than once it carried me to facts I didn’t ever want to know. But we are here to question everything, aren’t we?
Having an evil of evils comes in very handy and makes things easier. You are labeled anti-semitic, and that´s it. End of the debate, no need to answer your questions. However, the bad Germans story is getting worn out. One day we should talk about the A-bombs, the hundreds of tonnes of bombs thrown in N. Korea, the G. of Tonkin, the agent orange, the Tuskegee syphilis experiment, the unbelievable M. Albright (utube.com/watch?v=FbIX1CP9qr4), just to name a few. Even if the victor´s story doesn´t like the truth.
Wolke/Flyingcloud
Of course you are allowed to ask what happend ,
I met tens of holocaust and ww2 survivors and I asked them all the questions .
-Why the germans tattooed the jews ?
Why the farmer put marks on his cattle ?
It was easier to control the masses , like a biometric ID .
The productive were sent to work and the non productive to death .
FEMA – death camp or work camp ?
Sometimes death is better than slavery , isn’t it ?
I never heard about facilities in the camps but I will ask just to make sure .
I started reading Benjamin Freeman’s speech and stopped beacuse I found too much common denominator to the protocols of the elders of zion in his arguments.
Some of the history facts are totally untrue .
Intentional killings ?
My grandma’s brother says he will never forget the stoves and the smell of the soot .
I’m not trying to convience you but it is frustrating when on one side I see old folks with tears and scars telling their stories and on the other side people who know “truth” say nothing happend .
thanks for the reply, Old Shekel.
Personally, I think, the jews in the concentration camps, and the brutally defeated Germans were both victims of the Zionists, who were and still are a part of the same Powers That Be, whom we are talking about on this site.
The jewish residential population in Germany was well integrated until 1933, they were well situated and broadly accepted. The German anti-semitism back then targeted the financial high establishment, which was and still is mostly jewish, and the bolshewist Elite, who permanently sent their agitators and saboteurs, and tried to take over the power in Germany since World War I. As we know today, the Bolshewist Elite indeed was mostly Jewish and was also financed directly through the Wall Street Banking Elite. Until 1933, the German anti-semitism never meant the normal Jews, many of them fought for Germany in WWI, and many were German patriots and actually thought of themselves more as Germans than as jews.
Until 1933, when “Judea”, the Zonist Elite, declared war on Germany with all means, and therefore sowed doubts among the Germans about the reliability of the normal German Jews.
The Zionist Elite had two plans with the German Jews:
1.) the Zionists wanted them as population for their Palestine project, but of course the normal German Jews didn’t want to leave their established life behind to emigrate to a piece of desert full of hostile Arabs. Therefore the Zionists had to alienate them from the Germans and detach them from their normal lives. That was the purpose of agreements like the Haavara agreement, and it was the beginning of concentrating the jews in camps with the purpose of Emigration.
2.)The Zionists also wanted to use the normal German Jews to victimize them, in order to awake the world to Jewish suffering and to appeal for sympathy for the Palestine plans. So, in their media, they started to exaggerate the reports of brutality and suffering of the Jews under Hiter.
Old Shekel, there are the eye witness reports on one hand. On the other hand, there are scientific researches about the sites where those things supposedly happened – and these two things don’t always fit together. That’s the reason for further questions.
For example, there were eye witness reports about gas chambers in camps within the German borders. But today, it is state of the official historic research, that within the German borders, there weren’t any gas chambers. Still there are eye witness reports about gas chambers and mass killings in Polish camps, like Auschwitz. Auschwitz was a HUGE industrial site with several concentration camps around it, for thousands of prisoners to work in those factories. It had the population of a middle sized city, and of course some people died there, from illnesses, disease or accidents. In Auschwitz, there were crematories to cremate about a dozen bodies a day. From size and number it was simply impossible to cremate thousands there daily. Also, there are aerial pictures of Auschwitz from the time in question without any smoke clouds, anywhere. There were cyanide gas chambers to disinfect clothes from lice, which spread serious diseases. But it was impossible to use these special little gas tight rooms for people, let alone for millions.
Cyanide is highly poisonous. After killing people with it, one would have to wait days, until the doors could be opened, but still the helpers should wear astronaut like suits, and couldn’t tear the bodies out with bare hands, like it has been described. Without special equipment (which hasn’t been described), they would have died themselves from touching the bodies or breathing the air coming out of the room. With always waiting days, it wouldn’t have been possible to kill these high numbers of people. Cyanide rapidly diffuses into brick walls, colours them blue, and is traceable after decades. In the rooms, which are presented as gas chambers today, cyanide is not detectable today, on the contrary of the small delousing rooms. The supposed gas chambers are also not gas tight, and so the gas would have poured out and would have killed passersby and staff. Further the openings in the ceiling to fill in the cyanide have been inserted verifiably after the war.
There is also no certainty about Germans killing huge numbers of jews with other methods. Many people in the camps died from hunger and diseases after the supply broke down due to the allies, who were bombing all bigger German cities, but there is no convincing clue or evidence about mass killing orders or actions. I don’t know where your relatives were, and I don’t doubt their reports, I’m sure they went through hardships. But in general, from the contradictions I mentioned, there are a lot of questions left about methods and numbers.
I want to emphasize, that I differ thoroughly between normal citizen Jews and the Zionist part of the Elite which had the power then, and still has it now. They misused their fellow Jews instead of helping them. And they tore Germany down with horrible cruelty. Although the Germans didn’t start the war, but defended themselves, although there has to be further research about what they actually did to the Jews (or disabled persons or gypsies, or gays or socialists) and what of it was black propaganda, and although there are not many verified incidences of war crimes which the Germans committed. On the contrary to the allies, who acted with tremendous cruelty in many incidences.
This is why I think, the Elite of today hides behind their fabricated victor’s history of the “monstrous Germans”. And that’s why they don’t allow questions. in many European countries people have to go to jail for asking questions about this specific subject. In the US, the Zionists’ helpers are very fast with anti-smitism accusations and with the Holocst trick which I quoted above, to stop discussions like this.
In the links I provided above, there is material about any aspect I mentioned here. Benjamin Freedman was a Jewish top insider of the Zionist Elite, who later turned away from them and started to reveal much of what was going on behind the scenes of the World Wars.
Until today, I think, the Zionists misuse the normal Jews, as the Zionists hide their actions behind the anti-Semitism-accusation. When people start to realize this trick, they will be mad about all Jews – because the normal Jews allowed the anti-semitism trick (-> divide and conquer). There are quite many orthodox Jews, who are rejecting loudly that Zionism has to do with orthodox Judaism. There should be much more Jews who say the same. Because the anti-semitism trick endangers and exposes them very much. Same with the population of Israel, who are in danger of bitter vengeance by all the Arab neigbours because of the actions of their elite – who hide their actions behind the alleged interests of Israel’s population.
Normal people want to live in peace, like the Jews in Germany. It were the Zionists who didn’t let them.
@FlyingCloud
I insist to believe the eye witness more than articles .
You can reject the official numbers and have you own way of looking ,
one thing that disturbed me in you theory is the “innocent” germans , beacuse if you say it is the zionists responsible for the holocaust/ww2 it makes the germans naive and Hitler a good guy .
The whole nazi agenda was a race based , do you agree with it ?
You have to read Hitler’s book “Mein Kampf” and here are quotes :
- “The Jew has always been a people with definite racial characteristics and never a religion.”
- “by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”
Read more here :
http://www.mosaisk.com/auschwitz/Adolf-Hitler-about-the-Jews.php
Someone killed the jewish people (again!) so it is not about who killed this time .
These people were killed beacuse of their faith , their religion .
There are many jewish leaders who speak about what happend and what was the zionists part in the nazi killing machine .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjnoWOzZg_g
And one more thing that I can’t understand from your theory :
The well known arab leader in Jerusalem during the 30′s 40′s was Haj Amin El Husseini – he was a pro nazi and met sHitler :
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1404vNmUfHs/UKco2mLCJNI/AAAAAAAAA1c/Dec18x2k6gc/s1600/628×471.jpg
http://s4.hubimg.com/u/2120271_f520.jpg
http://www.ushmm.org/photos/61/61138.jpg
If the zionists are the people who responsible for the holocaust beacuse they wanted their Palstine project to progress ,
Why would El Husseini cooperated with the nazis ?
He didn’t want the jews to return Israel and always rejected any talks with the jews .
El Husseni wanted the nazi to achieve their goals and got Hitler’s promise to “finish what started” when he will arrive with his army to the middle east …
(A famous story is when England divided the country , Tel Aviv was for the jews and Jaffa which is a southern suburb of Tel aviv was suppose to be an enclave for the palestinians beacuse this part of the city dosn’t have continuity with what was suppose to be the palestinian state .
The jews agreed :Tel Aviv for the jews , Jaffa for the arabs .
The arabs agreed too but their leader , El Husseini said : “no agreements with the jews , fight till the death” .
The arabs closed the harbour of jaffa and snipers shot from Hassan Beck mosque rooftop at jews who came to the big market between Tel Aviv and Jaffa(the mosque is still exist)
The underground organization fought them and conquerd Jaffa …
My respect for going into this dicussion. I know how irritating it can be.
About the quotes from “Mein Kampf”: Hitler diputed the fact, that throughout history, there were many Jews in influential positions – especially often there, where power and particularly the financial power instrument of usury were misused, and he considered how the Jewish beliefs (e.g. the Talmud passages about the worthless Goyim) could promote this.
Even if one totally disagrees with all Mein Kampf quotes – they weren’t a base for intentionally killing Jews. This is just an assumption from today’s perspective, as we “know” that so many Jews have been killed intentionally by the Nazis. But in fact, you won’t find any appeal for killing Jews in the book, neither any call for euthanasia.
As said, the combat term anti-Semitism hides the negative aspects and actions of the Jewish elite in the past and present. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think that all Jews are malevolent (like I said before), as well as I don’t think, that the high Elite is only Jewish. But I think it’s time to take a closer look.
Even the race aspect of the Nazi agenda isn’t as clear as we would think from our school knowledge. The Nazis passed their race laws (prohibition of marriage between Germans and Jews etc.), AFTER these laws have been discussed and coordinated with leading Jewish organizations. The background for this was, that these Jewish organizations wanted to keep the Jewish race clean. In fact, these laws were one of the action of the Jewish organizations to alienate Jews from Germans, and to draw back the former assimilation and integration.
About the eye witness reports: in many instances, eye witness reports stand in direct contradiction with scientificially researchable facts. The huge gas chambers and crematories in Auschwitz to kill millions: There is no factual hint or residue, that they existed. In fact, there are no hints for these facilities in any of the former camps in Eastern Europe (meanwhile it is officially accepted, that they didn’t exist in camps within the German borders). If there would exist any fact to clear up the contradictions and to falsify the doubts about a number of eye witness reports, why don’t the historians go into a sober dispute with the alleged “deniers”, and present the facts to prove that these reports of industrial mass killings are right, and the doubts are wrong? This scientific debate NEVER happened, not once. Those who doubt the official version and dare to talk about the contradictions were always attacked aggessively, withdrawn from their economic existence or sent to jail.
Also, there are no scientific hints for any intentional mass killings of civilians of any other kind (by work, by starvation, shooting or whatever), even less for mass killings out of racial reasons.
So again, I’m sure, the Jews went through bad hardships in Europe before and during WWII, but the reports of the millionfold killings are not verifiable. No outstanding, singular crime by the Nazis is traceable scientifically.
And you are right: To me, the Germans were victims of the same Rothschild hordes as the Vietnamese, the Yugoslavians, the Iraqis, the Afghans, the Libyans and all the others, who were blamed to have a “bad dictator” and then have their country stomped back into stone age. Besides of this, I’m more than ready to discuss the very interesting questions like if Germany really was a dictatorship back then, or collectivists or fascists. One fact is, that the average Germans were doing very well economically back then, after many years of misery, because Hitler founded a non-Rothschild central bank. And look what happened to countries who also had an non-Rothschild central bank, like Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya.
BTW: What you say about the Palestinian Arab leader is interesting. Probably the Palestinians were just grabbing for any help they could get, because they were struggling for their existence. In fact, the Nazis cooperated with the Zionists, but it’s not that they sympathized with the Zionists’ plans in Palestine. They saw the problems between Jews and Arabs clearly coming. Therefore, the Nazis preferred the plan to transfer the Jews to Madagascar, not to Palestine. It were the Zionists, who forced their emigration plans to Palestine.
I have to say that what people think about the Talmud is pretty wrong .
The word “Goyim” means “nations” , in the old testament , this word is written even on Abrham (“And I will make you a great nation/GOY) …
So it is not a negative word !
The story of exodus is a nice example : When the Israelites went out of Eygpt, Pharo’s soldiers chased them , Moses opend the red sea and they crossed , when the eygptians passed , the sea closed on them and they sank .
The angels wanted to sing and read poetry and god told them :
“My own creations are sinking and dying and you want to sing?!”
I’m writing this in order to show Judaism doesn’t speak about worthless human beings !
Even the “shabbat” (saturday) was given to the people BUT also to the animals,the sea,the plants and earth just to have a day off and rest .
The nazis had a race based agenda and Hitler named every race and appointed each race to have his job .
The arian race are the elites , then the slavic race who desreve to live but to be enslaved to the arians , and then other races who doesn’t have the right to exist .
In 1936 , Berlin , when Jesse Owens won a gold medal in the olympic games , Hitler left the stadium beacuse he was out of his mind when he saw a black athlete crashes his theory of arian race superiority .
Judaism is not a race . There are black jews , chinese jews and europian jews .
The “original” jews from biblical times were semites (like the arabs) .
Was Hitler that fool to mix between semitic jews and judaism ?
Jews always married each other and kept their community ,
I don’t think it is unusual thing , especially when people live as a minority on foreign country and from time to time had to flea .
Gypsys ,amish ,native americans , tribes in africa and many other are keeping their identity , culture and tradition .
As long they were loyal citizens , I don’t find any problem with it …
Here’s a nazi document that shows how the nazis checked how many jews are out there :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/WannseeList.jpg
11,000,000
Please take a look at this :
http://forum.12p.co.il/index.php?showtopic=141680
And tell me if its not an intentional killing ?
I usually dont believe “science research” until I find out who stands behind and who paid for the research .
I insist to believe my grandma’s brother who saw it and doesnt have any intress to lie .
I can also tell you that for me all germans are responsible for what happend ,
they maybe were victims but once they found the way to tread others in order to save themselves – they became the agressors .
The explantion you wrote about the arabs “grabbing for any help” is not correct.
Other arab leaders never cooprated with the nazis (beacuse of race based agenda)
and even demonstrated when the heared their cousins are in trouble .
Be sure that the zionists maybe tried to establish Israel for their own needs but its out of their control long time ago (believe me) .
Excuse me if I have vocabulary/grammar mistakes …
PEACE
0ld-Shekel
Take some Talmud quotes by themselves and decide, what is meant with “Goyim”. http://rense.com/general86/talmd.htm
Many normal patriots love their country “above all”, and their leaders like it when their people marry alike – like you said. But that doesn’t prove, that that kind of “racists” want to eliminte anyone, nor plan mass killings. The Nazi Alfred Rosenberg had indeed an elitist view on races, but also you won’t find murderous intentions against jews or other races in his papers. Additionaly, there are hints, that he had jewish ancestry himself.
Quote Old Shekel: “Was Hitler that fool to mix between semitic jews and judaism ?” in the quotes of your link above, Hitler described the jews not as a religion but as a nation, widespread over many countries. Don’t know if this is the most correct concept, but he wasn’t a naive in this point. Also what’s with the Khasarian jews. They are not Semites, are they?
For the Wannsee documents like the one in your link, there are serious hints that they were fabricated after the war, see this scientific analysis: http://vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndwannsee.html
Further, there’s no proof, that the term “final solution” from the Wannsee conference meant mass murder instead of emigration.
And generally, pictures can be impressing, but don’t carry their where, when and who. Also singular incidents (which surely took place, like in every war) can’t be extrapolated to intended and planned mass murder. There is no sustainable base for that the Germans intended, planned and realised mass murder.
…quote from Old Shekel “I can also tell you that for me all germans are responsible for what happend”. This disappoints me. In history, many jews were responsible for many murders, for poverty, mass starvation, wars, mass murder – like the mostly jewish Bolshevist elite (financed by High Elite Wall St. banks) was allegedly responsible for the starvation of 8 million Ukrainians (“Holodomor”), let alone the Gulags. And still (see this article, resp. video) many hints point to Israel, when talking about false flags, wars etc. But I wouldn’t hold “the” jews responsible. Not all jews from the time in question, and not all jews ever lived.
I don’t understand your concept of blaming all Germans.
Who pays for the revisionist scientific research and publications? Well, the researchers pay themselves. Many of them are just burning for the truth. Well, often they pay additionally with their existence, freedom, sometimes with their lives. Just look at the Jewish author Norman Finkelstein. After publishing his book “the Holocaust Industry”, he lost his scientific carreer. And he isn’t even challenging the Holocaust itself, but he only reckons up the billions which are earned and distributed by that special industry.
It would be fair to add to this seemingly endless debate (and yet so interesting) a look to what is going on today, for instance the black jews from Ethiopia, Eritrea, Sudan, and Zimbabwe migrated to Israel, called a `cancer´ by a Likud Party member: huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/24/miri-regev-sudan_n_1543079.html#slide=more228655
who later apologised: electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-lawmaker-miri-regev-heaven-forbid-we-compare-africans-human-beings
and youtube.com/watch?v=mbY6Y4DGNpM
Also the Interior Minister´s comments haaretz.com/news/national/interior-minister-un-should-take-care-of-migrant-workers-not-israel-1.431487
M.K Miri Regev talked about tens of thousands refugees from Sudan and Eritrea who arrived by foot all the way .
I fill very pity for these people and a week ago I helped one of them who slept on building entrance hall when there was a storm outside .
Anyway , many of these people are working immigrants and some are refugees .
They have a hard life and many of them sleep on the streets ,
the problem is when out of poverty crime comes and some of the residents are not feeling safe enough .
Israel is the only country in the area that is not killing this people .
(If an eygptian soldier find them , he is shooting without thinking twice) .
They are not jews but it doesn’t really matter ,
the sad thing is when other muslims kill their brothers just beacuse they come from across border .
And I just want to make clear I DISAGREE WITH THIS FILTHY WOMAN !
We used to call her surname as “Gerev” (sock) instead of “Regev” .
Then maybe you false flaggers can explain how and why Silverstein acquired a multi-billion insurance policy, covering “terrorism”, on the property shortly before the attacks.
Thermite deposits, crews witnessed inside the building before the collapse, the demolition style implosion of the towers, the insurance policy. This is not just an inside job, but horribly staged, incredibly blatant, and intensely covered up. Furthermore we have one of the most epic displays of Chutzpah ever seen, with Mr. Silverstein discussing “pulling” the building in post-911 interviews.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/silverstein.html
Why can’t Jews just leave everyone else alone. Nations = races. No, you must impose yourself on others to the point of driving their ethnicity to the brink of extinction by pathologizing their right to control their own demographics. You call national survival “racism”, while promoting your own tribe at home and in the diaspora. Haaretz is not only read amongst Jews. These discussions about “rape by deception”, “Jewishness”, gentile intermarriage, Goyim/Shiksas (et cetera ad nauseum) are available for the whole world to see. Meanwhile outside of Israel, it’s “racism this”, “xenophobe that”, “anti-semite”, multiculturalism is a “human right”. BLAH BLAH BLAH, Shame on you fast-talking hypocrites.