News footage of first Torrance shooting (Screenshot/KTLA)
During the manhunt for former Los Angeles Police Department officer Christopher Dorner Thursday, Los Angeles and Torrance police were involved in two shootings in Torrance. In a multi-page online manifesto, Dorner implicated himself in the recent fatal shootings of an Irvine couple as well as two shootings Thursday morning targeting police officials. Police are in the process of tracking down Dorner, who is apparently on a killing rampage aimed at law enforcement, and the shootings today occurred when police came across vehicles similar to that of the suspect.
The first officer-involved shooting happened at about 5:20 a.m. in the 19500 block of Redbeam Avenue in Torrance, according to the L.A. Times. Two women delivering newspapers in a truck were struck by gunfire by L.A. police detectives from the Hollywood division. One woman was shot in the hand and the other in the back, Jesse Escochea, who captured video of the victims being treated, told the Times. Both victims were transported to a hospital.
The Times describes the crime scene: “After the shooting, the blue pickup was riddled with bullet holes and what appeared to be newspapers lay in the street alongside.”
The second incident occurred at Flagler Lane and Beryl Street about 5:45 a.m. and involved Torrance police. No injuries were reported.
Officials say both vehicles matched the description of the suspect vehicle. Police have confirmed that the occupants of the vehicles are not related to the Dorner case. LAPD Chief Charlie Beck said of the first shooting during today’s news conference, “Tragically, we believe this was a case of mistaken identity by the officers,” according to City News Service. Beck added that the vehicle was being driven “in the area of one of our primary protection details, one of the people that was under the most serious level of threat.” He continued, “The LAPD officers assigned observed a vehicle matching the suspect’s vehicle driving down the street with the lights turned out.” And they opened fire on the vehicle.
The description of Dorner’s vehicle has been changed since earlier reports and is now described as a gray 2005 Nissan Titan pickup, California license plate 7X03191. The license plate may have been switched to a place with the following number: 8D83987.
Editor’s note: This post has been updated to include information on the female victims.
The second shooting involved Torrance police officers, who were stationed nearby in the event LAPD needed them. When the officers heard the gunshots, they headed toward Redbeam.
At that point, a driver in another pickup truck that look similar to Dorner’s drove toward them on Flagler Lane near Beryl Street. Officers, suspecting it was Dorner, purposely collided with the truck and shot at him.The driver wasn’t hurt, avoiding bullets that had ripped through his windshield.
“I heard some man yell at somebody and I saw this argument on the street,” said Ana Filova, a woman living in her car near Dominguez Park.
Filova said she heard someone yell “cuffs” and then heard two shots, followed by a pause and a third shot.
“I said, `Mama Mia, that’s gunshots,” she said. “I was scared. I was shaking from fear.”
Torrance police Sgt. Chris Roosen said the officers were unhurt. He thanked the driver for cooperating in the investigation.
A 71-year-old woman delivering newspapers early on Thursday morning was among the people shot at by Los Angeles police during the manhunt for suspected killer ex-cop Christopher Dorner.
The victim, Emma Hernandez, said the officers did not give any warning or commands and just began firing at her blue pickup truck, according to her attorney. Her 47-year-old daughter was a passenger in the car at the time.
‘Tragically, we believe this is a case of mistaken identity,’ Charlie Beck, chief of the Los Angeles Police Department, said about the incident.
Hernandez was shot in the back and was hospitalized in stable condition. Her daughter, Margie Carranza, was a passenger in the truck at the time of the shooting. She was wounded by glass from the shattered window.
The two women were distributing copies of the Los Angeles Times before the terrifying incident.
The police gunfire came from officers who were protecting a department captain and his family who had been included on the fugitive’s hit list.
Getting a little trigger happy, aren’t they? If I drove a dark 4 door truck I think I’d leave it in the garage for a few days. So the new police procedure is “shoot first, ask questions later” and to hell with public safety. But I’m betting nobody will be held accountable for these shootings of innocent citizens and nobody will loose their badge or go to jail. Just move along, nothing to see here.
Cops around the nation get 100 days of training and are let loose on the unsuspecting public that believe they are professionals. They are not. They are a heavily propagandized mob protected by a Communist Collective aka police union.
Cops have no Esprit de Corp, they will run home to mommy and burn their uniforms the moment they loose their tactical superiority.
I no have known many cops in my life …. most of them are involved in felony level crimes and are abusive to their families. I avoid cops as much as possible as an encounter with police in America is the MOST dangerous thing that can happen to you.
If only there was some other identification on the outside of a car or truck, something to distinguish one vehicle from another, something that each owner would get when he or she registers a vehicle with the state. If only that hypothetical, oh, plate let’s call it, if only that . . plate was visible and any police officer could call in the information on that . . plate, perhaps a combination of numbers and letters. If only this system was available to prevent incidents where the police simply spray bullets at every one of hundreds or even thousands of similar make and model cars in a metropolitan area.
Oh. Wait.
So, why the fvck could this pack of Joe Friday rejects not bother to call in a plate before spraying bullets at innocent citizens?! I hope those women ruin the individual officers and cripple the LAPD with their upcoming lawsuits.
There’s a great quote from the 1957 movie Touch of Evil, Charlton Heston is trying to get the buddy of police Captain Orson Welles to turn on Welles. He points out all the corners that Welles’s police captain cuts and says, “Being a policeman is only easy in a police state.”
These cops answer to no one. They are totally out of control and we are the suspects. Soon it will be time to fight back I’m afraid. There was a saying that a well armed citizenry is the back up to the local police in times of social unrest. I think that is out the window today. They don’t want our help because we are the enemy.
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Mistake: Police shot at this truck after believing Dorner was inside. DailyMail
Do your best not to look like anyone the police are looking for. They were shooting to kill at that Honda. Check the bullet hole locations.
i know right?! that shit’s outta control.
shoot first ask questions later…
Getting a little trigger happy, aren’t they? If I drove a dark 4 door truck I think I’d leave it in the garage for a few days. So the new police procedure is “shoot first, ask questions later” and to hell with public safety. But I’m betting nobody will be held accountable for these shootings of innocent citizens and nobody will loose their badge or go to jail. Just move along, nothing to see here.
Cops around the nation get 100 days of training and are let loose on the unsuspecting public that believe they are professionals. They are not. They are a heavily propagandized mob protected by a Communist Collective aka police union.
Cops have no Esprit de Corp, they will run home to mommy and burn their uniforms the moment they loose their tactical superiority.
I no have known many cops in my life …. most of them are involved in felony level crimes and are abusive to their families. I avoid cops as much as possible as an encounter with police in America is the MOST dangerous thing that can happen to you.
If only there was some other identification on the outside of a car or truck, something to distinguish one vehicle from another, something that each owner would get when he or she registers a vehicle with the state. If only that hypothetical, oh, plate let’s call it, if only that . . plate was visible and any police officer could call in the information on that . . plate, perhaps a combination of numbers and letters. If only this system was available to prevent incidents where the police simply spray bullets at every one of hundreds or even thousands of similar make and model cars in a metropolitan area.
Oh. Wait.
So, why the fvck could this pack of Joe Friday rejects not bother to call in a plate before spraying bullets at innocent citizens?! I hope those women ruin the individual officers and cripple the LAPD with their upcoming lawsuits.
There’s a great quote from the 1957 movie Touch of Evil, Charlton Heston is trying to get the buddy of police Captain Orson Welles to turn on Welles. He points out all the corners that Welles’s police captain cuts and says, “Being a policeman is only easy in a police state.”
These cops answer to no one. They are totally out of control and we are the suspects. Soon it will be time to fight back I’m afraid. There was a saying that a well armed citizenry is the back up to the local police in times of social unrest. I think that is out the window today. They don’t want our help because we are the enemy.
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