We NEED The Economy To Collapse!

15 comments to We NEED The Economy To Collapse!

  • matt

    God I love your passion Chris! I wish we had more people like you and Sean from SGT in my community! Give that little baby of yours a big kiss !! 😉

  • Marc

    Chris,

    Have you seen the following video? It’s very clear he’s talking about you:

    http://youtu.be/KY8-QXyzU_Y

    • matt

      Marc..Thats a little old now and my 2c worth would be..You have to take responsibility for your own actions..If you believe the ‘snake oil salesmen’ pushing their paper ponzi illusion or the ‘ snake oil salesmen’ pushing metals it’s ultimately your own choice..I made the latter choice WAY before I had even heard of Chris and if I’m wrong..It’s MY FAULT for making that decision..This stormcloud dude is a doomsday porn pusher IMO..just his effects on his voice, scary images and negative tone put me off him after the first few minutes..not to forget his doomsday chords under his dialogue..

      as the saying goes..Listen to all follow none..make your own decisions and take responsibility..That’s hopefully the new paradigm!! best of luck!!

      • Marc

        I just find it odd that he basically agrees with Chris that the system and the dollar will collapse and yet he disparages him for pushing silver. If he is certain that the system will collapse it would seem logical that he would pull a significant majority of his assets out of dollars. If he is 100% certain the system why would he have assets in stocks and bonds? Real estate may be a good investment but it is illiquid. For whatever reason it may be necessary to move around and you can’t take your real estate with you. He’s not at all consistent. He disparages Chris but he has no solutions other than to keep an asset, by his own admission, is dying.

        • David

          Some that post YouTube videos are not logical. Some recognize something is wrong but arrive at the wrong solution, or no solution except to bitch. And some are psychopaths.

    • David

      The points are so weak, and the personal attacks are so unnecessary, it isn’t worth any further comment.

  • matt

    ditto David..I think the best way to tell is ask your self “how do you feel”?? after listening/watching to the info on the net..there’s your indicator! Go with your gut feeling..not the words they speak! it’s an exchange of energies ultimately I believe

    • David

      Matt,

      That’s an interesting perspective and I agree with you…at least for people that have genuine feelings; intuitive people rather than those coming from anger, have to be right about what they previously believed, or have an axe to grind.

      • matt

        David..anger is an emotional reaction and ultimately created by fear..If your giving in to emotional reactions you aren’t allowing intuition to lead you out of fear. People need to trust instinct which we all have instead of giving into emotions which I think are a state of non clarity…and don’t those who seek to control others know this..;)

  • Paul Prichard (Paper Bear)

    We NEED The (parasitic) Economy To Collapse!

    • matt

      Paul..OH I couldn’t agree more..Let the people and the real wealth creators get a fresh start and unplug the old corpse and BURY IT!

  • Liberty1776

    You cannot take this country back peacefully………………..next option

  • Keith

    I don’t think there’s that much of a disagreement here. The guy in the video agrees with Chris that silver is a good way of preserving wealth in the event of a collapse. He also agrees that skills and organisation are an important part of surviving the collapse. The only point of disagreement is really whether the act of buying silver alone is enough to bring the system down. I don’t remember this being a big part of Chris’ philosophy and I certainly don’t think the elite really care about stackers. As long as the current order persists, the markets will be rigged and legislation can be passed to make life for stackers impossible. Someone having coins in their bedroom is really of no interest to the elite – at least on the scale it is today, and while payment of taxes must be done in fiat. Buy metals for only ONE reason: to preserve purchasing power during an economic collapse.

  • Dave

    I have made the following point a few times over the past few years in different forums, but to little avai: WHAT ABOUT THE NUCLEAR REACTORS???

    I agree with the short video above, and I acknowledge that walking away (per John Galt and Chris Duane) is a good strategy – or would be, absent the existence of light water nuclear reactors. When Ayn Rand was writing her works we didn’t have multiple dozens of these things punctuating the landscape. I wrote to Chris about this months ago and got (I am sorry to say this Chris but it’s true) an anemic response avoiding the matter.) At least Chris wrote me back. I’ve not heard back from the Skousens (Strategic Relocation fame), Alex Jones, or anyone other than Bruce Beach. Beach told me: “I don’t know.” Beach is an authority on nuclear fallout shelters.

    Here’s the problem that everyone seems to be avoiding: The civilian nuclear power plants can’t just be shut down in minutes or hours like gas and coal fired plants. They take more time. Also if they lose input power from the grid, they activate their diesel gensets. They have a week or two worth of fuel to operate those. Once that’s gone, they lose cooling ability and ultimately meltdown. It is true that if they shutdown the reaction or lose coolant in a loss of coolant accident (remember, water is both the heat transfer medium and a neutron moderator) the chain reaction stops. The problem is that after about 6 weeks into the fuel cycle, the heat from decay from the fuel rods is enough (about 1% of the thermal output of the plant) to cause a meltdown within 3 days. For a 1 gigaWatt plant this works out to about 30 mW of heat output. (A 1 gWatt plant generates about 3gW of heat.) So, once one of these units have been operating for more than a couple of months into the fuel cycle, you can’t just turn it off and walk away. They need to be crewed, and crewed properly – with requisite industrial material support – and shut down properly.

    Now, it gets worse. Even assuming that the crash (and we all agree a crash is coming) transpires in a way that allows all of these plants to be shutdown safely, there is still the matter of the spent fuel rod pools. These are the pools of water in which are contained the hundreds (per reactor) of spent fuel rods that are literally too hot (thermally and radioactively) to remove from immersion. If they become uncovered, they become hot enough to ignite. If this happens, the cladding will melt. If the mixture of cladding and fissile materials collects at the bottom of the pool in sufficient quantities and in a compact molten configuration, a chain reaction can result. The required immersion period for these rods is about 5 years. After that they can be removed and stored in a dry mode. This is about the only good news regarding this problem. While they remain radioactive for centuries, the risk of having them ignite or melt and release cesium 137 (I am not even worrying about the Iodine here) mitigates after half a decade.

    Years ago I worked for the Critical Mass Energy Project of Public Citizen. This is how I learned of this vulnerability. I was also an intern with the Union of Concerned Scientists (but in the arms control unit – not nuclear power). Here is a link to one of their articles discussin Spent Fuel: http://www.ucsusa.org/nuclear_power/nuclear_power_risk/safety/safer-storage-of-spent-fuel.html

    Look up nuclear fuel cycle for more information.

    So, what I want to present here is the question of what happens to those of us who just walk away when it all falls apart and the reactors are abandoned and meltdown. What do we do then? Cesium 137 has a 30 year half life. It’s not like Iodine 131. That’s manageable. But Cesium?

    I’d like to think that we really could just let the thing crash and reset. But I really don’t see how that can work. Imagine 30 or 50 Fukushimas and you have the basic idea. I suppose we could all move to Chile or Uruguay, but the contaminants would eventually migrate down there too – and of course there are all the other problems of expatriation.

    To recapitulate, the problem is that any breakdown in order that results in a loss of the ability to operate or safely shutdown the plants and dry store the spent fuel will result in contamination of the northern hemisphere (and likely, the planet) with sufficient radioative waste to render it uninhabitble by humans (with anything close to acceptable standards of living) for at least a century. This means societal breakdowns as well as physical system breakdowns (for example, EMP or solar flare take down of the grid).

    Chris, this is not an attack on you though I was dissapointed in your reply when I wrote to you about it earlier this year. I have been pondering this for months and have finally concluded that as logical and attractive as simply walking away IS, this problem – the light water reactor problem – does not really allow us to do so. For me, at present, the solution is to walk away and set up the necessary situation (refuge) for surviving the on-going deterioration of conditions, and then to try and find away to make the crash smooth enough to at least avoid this particular problem. Ignoring it isn’t a solution, and as dire as it is, I’m not really ready to throw in the towel.

    I would like to see this problem brought into broader discussion. If I am correct about it’s magnitude, than, by definition, it is a game changer.

    Regards to all,
    Dave Trickett

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